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Subject: Re: Fruit 2.1 will be in the top 5 on SSDF list

Author: Joachim Rang

Date: 04:14:20 06/22/05

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On June 22, 2005 at 07:07:00, Madhavan wrote:

>On June 22, 2005 at 07:03:44, Joachim Rang wrote:
>
>>On June 22, 2005 at 06:34:42, Madhavan wrote:
>>
>>>On June 22, 2005 at 04:37:31, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 22, 2005 at 03:39:54, Sally Weltrop wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Spare me the lecture about we need a million games. You see a boxer and you know
>>>>>just by how he fights and who he is fighting that he is got that something
>>>>>"special".
>>>>>
>>>>>Remember my words cause they will ring true.
>>>>>
>>>>>That's without learning capacity and no EGTB's
>>>>
>>>>I do not expect fruit without learning to be in the top 5 of the ssdf today.
>>>
>>>Can be.
>>>
>>>>I expect Shredder9,Shredder8,Shredder7.04,Junior9 and Deep Fritz8 to have bigger
>>>>ssdf rating.
>>>
>>>Its just ridiculous if SSDF tests different version,why not let them test all
>>>shredder version instead of just 3?
>>>unforstunately,we wouldnt expect fruit to play there.SSDF testers were good good
>>>at reporting result,but they wouldnt take freewares,atleast not when the freebie
>>>dont look appealing to them.
>>>
>>>>I do not claim that all of them are better than fruit(Fritz and Junior may be
>>>>weaker) but considering the fact that fritz and Junior use learning I expect
>>>>them to have bigger ssdf rating.
>>>
>>>they are of equal rating,Fruit just needs another update to overtake them.It
>>>would seem difficult.so far testers have not reprted fruit 2.1's results on
>>>longer time control.
>>>
>>
>>I think 40 moves in 40 minutes does qualify as longer time control:
>>
>>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/Fruit_21.htm
>
>Thanks for the link
>
>But...
>
>I see only Fruit 2.0's result there,seems that the tester has not tested the
>latest one.
>13 CM 10000 Yoda 2619 9,0 8,0 17 47,1 2598,4 44173  44523 Charles Heinz
>14 Spike 0.9a 2610 6,0 16,0 22 72,7 2769,1 60920  57420 Heinz
>15 Fruit 2.0 2605     0
>16 SOS 5 2600 7,0 13,0 20 65,0 2705,0 54100  52000 Michael
>17 Pseudo 0.7c 2598 6,0 10,0 16 62,5 2685,5 42968  41568 Heinz
>18 Deep Sjeng 1.6
>

no you are reading the table wrong. Tested is Fruit 2.1 and Fruit 2.0 is marked
since it is the reference against the value "advance" is calculated. You see
also 0 games against Fruit 2.0 since they do not tester engines against
themselve.

regards Joachim

here without the Elocalculation:


http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/tabellen/fruit2201.htm

see als:

http://talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?432679



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