Author: Madhavan
Date: 04:25:33 06/22/05
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On June 22, 2005 at 07:14:20, Joachim Rang wrote: >On June 22, 2005 at 07:07:00, Madhavan wrote: > >>On June 22, 2005 at 07:03:44, Joachim Rang wrote: >> >>>On June 22, 2005 at 06:34:42, Madhavan wrote: >>> >>>>On June 22, 2005 at 04:37:31, Uri Blass wrote: >>>> >>>>>On June 22, 2005 at 03:39:54, Sally Weltrop wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Spare me the lecture about we need a million games. You see a boxer and you know >>>>>>just by how he fights and who he is fighting that he is got that something >>>>>>"special". >>>>>> >>>>>>Remember my words cause they will ring true. >>>>>> >>>>>>That's without learning capacity and no EGTB's >>>>> >>>>>I do not expect fruit without learning to be in the top 5 of the ssdf today. >>>> >>>>Can be. >>>> >>>>>I expect Shredder9,Shredder8,Shredder7.04,Junior9 and Deep Fritz8 to have bigger >>>>>ssdf rating. >>>> >>>>Its just ridiculous if SSDF tests different version,why not let them test all >>>>shredder version instead of just 3? >>>>unforstunately,we wouldnt expect fruit to play there.SSDF testers were good good >>>>at reporting result,but they wouldnt take freewares,atleast not when the freebie >>>>dont look appealing to them. >>>> >>>>>I do not claim that all of them are better than fruit(Fritz and Junior may be >>>>>weaker) but considering the fact that fritz and Junior use learning I expect >>>>>them to have bigger ssdf rating. >>>> >>>>they are of equal rating,Fruit just needs another update to overtake them.It >>>>would seem difficult.so far testers have not reprted fruit 2.1's results on >>>>longer time control. >>>> >>> >>>I think 40 moves in 40 minutes does qualify as longer time control: >>> >>>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/Fruit_21.htm >> >>Thanks for the link >> >>But... >> >>I see only Fruit 2.0's result there,seems that the tester has not tested the >>latest one. >>13 CM 10000 Yoda 2619 9,0 8,0 17 47,1 2598,4 44173 44523 Charles Heinz >>14 Spike 0.9a 2610 6,0 16,0 22 72,7 2769,1 60920 57420 Heinz >>15 Fruit 2.0 2605 0 >>16 SOS 5 2600 7,0 13,0 20 65,0 2705,0 54100 52000 Michael >>17 Pseudo 0.7c 2598 6,0 10,0 16 62,5 2685,5 42968 41568 Heinz >>18 Deep Sjeng 1.6 >> > >no you are reading the table wrong. It was there,I get it.Fruit 2.1 scored 389/607. update on other other link says 406/633.WOW!that must be really a great score.only behind shredder and hydra(ofcourse) :) >Tested is Fruit 2.1 and Fruit 2.0 is marked >since it is the reference against the value "advance" is calculated. You see >also 0 games against Fruit 2.0 since they do not tester engines against >themselve. I get it.Thanks. >regards Joachim > >here without the Elocalculation: > > >http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/tabellen/fruit2201.htm > >see als: > >http://talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?432679
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