Author: Tony Nichols
Date: 22:45:49 06/28/05
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On June 29, 2005 at 01:25:01, Derek Paquette wrote: >We have Gm's crying left and right! >We have board members crying left and right > >"HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN!" > >Its been decades since computers first started playing chess you would think >that eventually they would pass us, and now is that time for computers. If a >desktop PC chess program that is programmed by one man or two(sometimes) can >beat a super grandmaster (sometimes) you'd think a computer the size of a large >fridge, programmed and operated by a TEAM, and has a huge budget running so fast >that it calculates on a scale some can't even imagine that it would YES! beat a >human. > >We got GM's that are so far up on their horses they absolutely REFUSE to come >back to earth and realize that 'they' are beaten. Hydra outplayed adams fair >and square, it was obvious from game one. Yet...we still have people who are >die-hard grandmaster fanboys who say computers still don't 'understand chess' >well either they do or they don't, but whatever they are doing, if you call it >just brute forcing it, they are doing it better, well in compensation to >whatever micky adams or other Gm's its faced were doing. I cannot stand people >who cry foul over this, I especially can't stand some of the comments that are >on chessbase.com, like Nigel Short for example, what exactly is he saying? Is >he saying "yes hydra can beat any human, i feel bad for adams" or is he calling >bul@#@it > >Regardless, we got idiots asking "what does this prove?" > >If this was an arm wrestling competition, it would prove that hydra is a better >arm wrestler >If this was a 100m race, it would prove hydra is faster >If this was a god damn sweater knitting contest, hydra would be a better knitter > >So don't try and say it doesn't mean anything, hydra dominated adams, stepped up >to all other grandmasters, (topolov did ok, but it was a draw) no matter how >well Topolov did, who cares, it was a draw. The final standing is what counts > >"ah well he tried, lets give him more credit than the other guy who did JUST as >good and managed a draw" > >I cannot stand the fanboy wankism of some people who feel super grandmasters are >invincible because their lives exist within a very small bubble and can't escape >the fact that a machine thats worth a million bucks can beat them > >GOOD GRIEF Well said. However, I think there is plenty of room for improvement from the human side. The problem for a GM is that his career is based on playing humans. He prepares for the competition he will face most often. I'm not sure how we get GM's to take computer matches more seriously. As it stands they never know if they will get to play a comp match or not, Preparation for a comp match could just be a waste of time. Clearly there must be huge incentive for a GM to devote the necessary amount of time to preparing for such matches. I don't think a one off match is good enough. Maybe, If we had annual matches top GM's would be convinced that all the preperation would pay off? Regards Tony
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