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Subject: Re: A test position for chess programs

Author: blass uri

Date: 13:31:29 02/24/99

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On February 24, 1999 at 14:03:09, blass uri wrote:

>
>On February 24, 1999 at 11:46:14, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On February 23, 1999 at 16:17:09, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>3r1b1k/pp6/2n2q1p/2Bp1B1Q/5P2/1P4p1/P7/4R1K1 w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>This position is from a correspondence game
>>>
>>>White played 34.Re6(This is the best move and probably leads to a draw)
>>>
>>>This is a hard position for chess programs.
>>>
>>>Chessmaster6000 needed more than 20 minutes with ss=6
>>>and almost 8 minutes with ss=10 on pentium200MMX
>>>
>>>other programs are even slower and cannot solve it in a reasonable time.
>>
>>We misunderstand here. You play correspondence chess here, but
>>want programs to find it within a few minutes, where you have 3 days
>>a move for?
>>
>>Diep needs 90 minutes to show the correct line, that is however
>>AFTER research, where most programs show just the fail high time.
>
>It is better than most of the programs
>
>The latest version of Junior5 needs almost 10 hours to fail high with Re6 on
>pentium200MMX
>
>Crafty16.4 as an engine for Fritz5 is better and found the right move after some
>hours(I do not know the exact time but I saw that Re6 was the 4th or 5th move(I
>am not sure) at depth 13, after an hour of analysis it considered Re6 as the 2nd
>move at depth 14 and after some hours I saw when I looked again at the screen
>that it suggested the right move after something close to 5 hours at depth 15(I
>do not know if it solved it at depth 14 or 15).
>
>Genius3 is working hard on this problem and it did not solve it after more than
>21 hours on pentium100Mhz(it is considering the right move in the last hour at
>depth 13/25)
>
>Uri
Fritz5.16 failed high after 75 minutes and 29 seconds(689,044 Knodes) on my
pentium200MMX with evaluation -2.53

I did other things at the same time so the real time is probably less than 75
minutes.

Uri



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