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Subject: Re: Positional knowlege: So difficult ?

Author: Gerd Isenberg

Date: 11:12:37 09/15/05

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On September 15, 2005 at 11:55:50, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:

>On September 15, 2005 at 10:56:47, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>
>>On September 15, 2005 at 10:37:00, Daniel Mehrmannn wrote:
>>
>>>Well,
>>>
>>>in a testgame Homer vs AnMon Homer don't understand the plans and the correct
>>>positional play:
>>>
>>>1. Push paws first to open lines
>>>2. After that, move pieces to that lines
>>>
>>>Well, Homer makes the wrong order and do first number 2 and than 1 :( But i
>>>tested this position with other commercial engines too, and they playing the
>>>same crap:
>>>
>>>[D]r1b2rk1/1pqnbppp/p2ppn2/6B1/4PP2/1NN2Q2/PPP3PP/1K1R1B1R w - -
>>>
>>>White should not move Qg3 at all the next moves. In the game Homer moved here
>>>Qg3 . So if you're see a PV with Qg3 you're in club ;)
>>
>>I think it's more important to know first whether the kingside pawnstorm is the
>>only correct plan here.
>>
>>--
>>GCP
>
>Please buy a good chessbook and read the chapter king castle on different wings.
>It looks like that DeepSjeng has to learn a important lesson in chess.
>
>TL


Hi Thomas,

i think Gian-Carlo if aware of the features of this position.
A heuristics to force a "correct" pawn storm is indeed more difficult to
implement, than the general rules Daniel mentioned.

That is how i understood Gian-Carlo.

The posted position is of course a "simple" case, but unfortunately the are a
_lot_ of others. Can you introduce a continuous advance bonus formula for pawns?
 Considering opposite material, intended and current king position (qwing,
center, kwing, castle-rights, chess960) for both sides, intended or current pawn
structure (some open/close measure considering (future) lever possibilities),
piece interactions... ;-)

Cheers,
Gerd



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