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Subject: Re: Robert question, Deep Blue 3.1x

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 08:16:16 09/20/05

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On September 19, 2005 at 10:06:16, K. Burcham wrote:

From a chessplayer viewpoint the judgement is very easy. Deep Blue played like a
big crap. Todays software on other hand plays real strong.

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>
>Pretty remarkable, and it shows that they were extremely strong compared to
>everyone else during that period.
>DB was just "a lot faster, and a lot smarter" than deep thought.  It was (and
>would still be) competitive...
>
>Robert Hyatt
>
>Robert, you have always had "faith" in Deep Blue playing in a tournament against
>todays programs. What do you base this on? Mostly just a gut feeling? Is there a
>game that you were impressed with Deep Blue knowledge? Maybe just the fact that
>Deep Blue held its own against Kasparov?
>I read your point that you thought Deep Blue was strong for several years, but
>its competitors may not do so well against todays programs.
>
>Maybe you are saying that with improvements between 1997 and 2005, Deep Blue
>would be very strong today. Are you saying that Deep Blue, exactly the way it
>was in 1997 would be competitive today, with its 1997 search depth and 1997
>knowledge?
>
>I am a fan of Deep Blue, its hardware and what they accomplished. I have spent
>days trying to find a line or move that todays programs will not play. I cannot
>find this, in fact we know that Deep Blue could not see 44.Kh2 wins in game 2.
>Instead Deep Blue played the draw move 44.Kf1. The knowledge and depth was not
>there to avoid this move. Todays programs also will not play this with winning
>eval. Some will play, but like you said once, not for right reason.
>
> [D] R7/1r3kp1/1qQb1p1p/1p1PpP2/1Pp1B3/2P4P/6P1/6K1 w - - 0 44
>
>
>2006 Unlimited World Open
>Fruit 2.2
>Zappa 2.0
>Deep Fritz 9
>Crafty 21.4
>Deep Blue 3.1x
>Shredder 10
>Hiarcs 10.2
>Deep Junior 10
>
>kburcham



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