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Subject: Re: CEGT / List Loop

Author: Tord Romstad

Date: 02:41:54 10/16/05

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On October 15, 2005 at 15:47:41, Alex Newman wrote:

>IMO, if the engine does much better against Fruit then the other opponents, it's
>either tested and tuned against Fruit only, or it's a Fruit clone.

Why?  I don't see any logical reason why this should be so.  It is
perfectly normal that a program does better against some opponents than
against others, as all experienced testers can tell you.  Besides,
after so few games, we just cannot say that the new List does better
against Fruit than against other opponents.  Making conclusions after
just 16 (!) games is completely ridiculous.

>In the List case, I suspect both. No proof of course, just my oppinion, still
>too early to say, etc, etc

If you have no better justification for your opinion than this, you should
keep it to yourself.  Having played against List in an OTB tournament
recently while talking to its author, I can almost guarantee that List
and Fruit have very little in common.

Saying that you suspect a program to be a clone is an extremely serious
accusation, especially when the program in question is commercial.
Unless you have extremely solid evidence, you should avoid making the
accusations public.  It is better to contact the author of the program
you think it is a clone of.

Tord



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