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Subject: Re: Linares '98 Topalov-Shirov ...Bh3!!

Author: Mark Rawlings

Date: 12:52:27 03/14/99

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This is really an interesting position!  Is the final consensus that it was a
sound sacrifice?  I let my programs search fairly deep with no real conclusion.
After 1. ..  Bh3 2. gxh3 Kf5  3. Kf2 Ke4  black still has a challenge forcing
the win.  I know some others must have been running this with faster computers,
tablebases, etc.  Any conclusions?

Mark

On March 12, 1999 at 21:42:53, Charles Milton Ling wrote:

>Not me!  It was Shirov himself who claimed that after Be4, the win was 40 moves
>away...
>Charley
>
>On March 10, 1999 at 19:41:42, Peter Kappler wrote:
>
>>On March 10, 1999 at 19:15:50, John Merlino wrote:
>>
>>>On March 10, 1999 at 02:33:14, Peter Kappler wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>8/8/4kpp1/3p1b2/p6P/2B5/6P1/6K1 b - - bm Bh3; id "Topalov-Shirov Linares 98";
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Does everybody remember this game?  It's from last year's Linares tournament,
>>>>where Shirov played a shocking bishop sacrifice in the endgame and won
>>>>brilliantly.  I believe that post-mortem analysis proved it was the only way to
>>>>win.  (Please correct me if this is wrong)
>>>>
>>>>I watched this game live on ICC with dozens of others, and we were all quite
>>>>impressed with Shirov's powers of calculation.
>>>>
>>>>This *should* be an extremely difficult problem for computers - but I'm sure
>>>>somebody will tell me that Hiarcs or some other commercial program can solve it
>>>>in 10 seconds.
>>>>
>>>>Just curious...
>>>>
>>>>--Peter
>>>
>>>Chessmaster 6000 could not find it after thinking for about a half-hour on a
>>>P2-300. It preferred a3.
>>>
>>>Forgive a low-rated player, but why is this not a won position for black even if
>>>he plays a3? I had Chessmaster play itself (30 sec/move -- not much but enough
>>>to brute force at least 10 plies ahead on my machine) and black won easily in 30
>>>moves, announcing mate in 7 on move 23.
>>>
>>>jm
>>
>>
>>John,
>>
>>I don't have the analysis of the game in front of me, but in general,
>>opposite-colored bishop endings are terribly difficult to win even when one side
>>is ahead one or two pawns.  The reason for this is that the weaker side can
>>dominate the squares that his bishop controls, making it much easier to blockade
>>an extra pawn or two.
>>
>>In this position, for the a-pawn to queen, it will require Black to march his
>>king over to that side of the board, but he must be careful not to allow White's
>>king to pick off too many Black pawns.
>>
>>It's a tricky ending.  Another person just posted that Be4 is the only other
>>winning move, claiming that the win was some 40 moves away...
>>
>>
>>--Peter



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