Author: Chuck
Date: 06:07:26 11/11/05
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On November 11, 2005 at 08:41:34, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >On November 11, 2005 at 07:50:24, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On November 11, 2005 at 07:40:42, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >> >>>On November 11, 2005 at 07:33:15, Jouni Uski wrote: >>> >>>>This is stunning, when other testers have reported normally Fruit - Junior >>>>to about 70 - 30. >>>> >>>>Jouni >>> >>> Hi Jouni >>> Not necessarily: you know SSDF are testing >>> the whole package with own books, learning on, >>> ponder=on and thus partly not the strength of >>> the engines but more the goodness of the opening >>> books ... and Junior 9 is one of the engines to >>> benefit more than other programs from its rather >>> limited opening book repeating won lines many >>> times in a match thus sometimes producing doubles. >>> Regards >>> Kurt [http://www.utzingerk.com] >> >>I did not know that opening book help Junior so much. >> >>I knew that fruit performed clearly better than Junior also when own books were >>used >> >>see http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?460698 >> >>I did not follow the games to check for doubles but I remember matches when >>Fruit beated Fritz9 or Shredder9 convincingly when original opening book were >>used and the result of the ssdf are surprising. >> >>Maybe Fruit does not like the athlon1200 and it may be interesting to know if it >>earns more speed from faster hardware relative to Fritz or Junior or Shredder. >> >>Uri > > > Hi Uri > Some further explanations: still too less > games / Junior 9 benefits more than Fruit > from ponder=on / pure accident > Regards > Kurt Yes, still there are simply not enough games. Remember a few years ago when, IIRC, Junior shocked everyone by getting a 5-0 jump on Fritz in the Cadaques tournament. But by the end of a long match the result evened out. Let's see now, who was the lad who ran that tournament?? :) Cheers, Chuck
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