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Subject: Re: Fruit looses in 12 moves

Author: Chessfun

Date: 04:38:34 11/15/05

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On November 15, 2005 at 06:15:17, Günther Simon wrote:

>On November 15, 2005 at 01:54:08, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On November 14, 2005 at 23:44:34, Günther Simon wrote:
>>
>>>On November 14, 2005 at 19:01:09, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 14, 2005 at 14:56:25, Günther Simon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 14, 2005 at 14:31:24, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>...
>>>>>>>Hello Uri,
>>>>>>>Your game has nothing to do with the topic that I can see.  I just searched the
>>>>>>>almost 512,000 games in the Chessbase database.cbh that came with one of the
>>>>>>>programs.  There is not one game with the position after 5....Qb6.  You can
>>>>>>>argue all you want about some people who have played that position but you
>>>>>>>cannot convince me it's a good move.  It may have surprise benefits if you have
>>>>>>>done some home analysis or you are playing some correspondence game where you
>>>>>>>have time to work out all problems or can find games already played from that
>>>>>>>position to give you ideas.  Obviously, Deep Sjeng had an advantage here with
>>>>>>>"prior knowledge" of the position backed up by a couple more book moves.
>>>>>>>Congrats to the book maker.
>>>>>>>Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?461610
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>>
>>>>>You missed the point.
>>>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?461624
>>>>>
>>>>>I wonder how much redundant info will still arise in this thread?
>>>>
>>>>As long as you count yours as one post, fine with me.
>>>>
>>>>>My post contained already all necessary infos about the setup flaw
>>>>>and about the too short search time for such a position...
>>>>>(independent from Fruit)
>>>>>
>>>>>Guenther
>>>>
>>>>I missed no point. I simply pointed Jim to the fact that engine books were not
>>>>used.
>>>>
>>>>Sarah.
>>>
>>>And what is the meaning of telling him something he knew already?
>>
>>Are you psychic? how would you know what he knew? clearly not by reading his
>>post as if you did you would clearly notice from the post I replied to and his
>>reply to mine that he didn't know that engine books were not used.
>>
>>"Obviously, Deep Sjeng had an advantage here with "prior knowledge" of the
>>position backed up by a couple more book moves. Congrats to the book maker."
>>
>>Do you need a further explaination or is it clear enough now?
>
>?? You behave really weird here and I will let moderate your last post.
>Haven't you still got that Deep Sjeng was favoured in this game,
>because it used by accident a _second_ book with more moves than Fruit?
>That's what we all were talking about and I don't see what's your problem
>to grasp this from Jims post, from mine and from others in this thread?

Again if you simply go back to my original post, it wasn't a matter of what I
got. Jim's impression was that engine books were used. I simply pointed him to a
previous post which made it clear that wasn't the case. To that you decided to
chime in with your comments.

Sarah.





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