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Subject: Re: Very smart from Topolov he will get a bigger offer very soon :-)

Author: Tony Nichols

Date: 08:35:16 11/15/05

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On November 15, 2005 at 02:39:35, Uri Blass wrote:

>On November 15, 2005 at 01:52:00, Tony Nichols wrote:
>
>>On November 15, 2005 at 00:53:10, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On November 15, 2005 at 00:04:18, Tony Nichols wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 14, 2005 at 20:32:22, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2738
>>>>
>>>>I hope Topalov does not go the way of Ponomariov. Big matches do not come your
>>>>way everyday.
>>>>Regards
>>>>Tony
>>>
>>>I think that topalov is right not to accept a match against Kramnik but it could
>>>be better if topalov say that it is not a question of money but a question of
>>>justice.
>>>
>>>Kramnik does not deserve a match beacuse Shirov beated him so I do not count
>>>Kramnik's match against kasparov(kramnik should never be there in the first
>>>place) and I think that kramnik never was the world champion.
>>>
>>
>>  If you beat the world champion in a match, then you are world champion.
>
>I think that you need first to qualify for a match and kramnik did not qualify
>for it.
>
>The only way to qualify in the past was by winning a match earlier and I see no
>reason to do an exception for kramnik.
>
>>
>>
>>>Accepting a match against kramnik is simply against justice and I hope people
>>>simply forget about kramnik(kramnik is simply too greedy and this is the reason
>>>he refused to participate in the world championship that topalov won so I hope
>>>that he earns nothing).
>>>
>>
>>  I don't think greed has anything to do with it. If he participated in the
>>tournament he would in effect renounce his world title.
>
>I do not see kramnik has a person who had the world title.
>Kasparov was the world champion from my point of view before topalov
>
>>
>>>Based on what I read,
>>>Kramnik got money for losing against shirov when shirov never got money for
>>>winning because the prize was supposed to be a match against kasparov.
>>>
>>>This is clearly not fair and I think that justice says that Kramnik should pay
>>>shirov at least the money that kramnik got for losing the match as compensation
>>>because it is not logical that losing is better than winning and shirov could
>>>win that money in case of losing the match against kramnik.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>
>>  Is this a joke? You want Kramnik to give money to Shirov, Because Shirov beat
>>Kramnik?
>
>Because Shirov got nothing for beating kramnik and this is not fair.
>Usually I do not think that the loser need to pay the winner but usually we have
>no case that the loser get money for losing and the winner does not get money
>for winning.
>
>>  I think you have your history wrong. Kramnik made sure he got financial
>>guarantees before he played the match, Shirov did not. Shirov turned down at
>>least one WC offer. Apparently, It wasn't enough money!? This is from the same
>>man who just played a match for free!
>
>I did not know it.
>What was the offer(was this an offer that kasparov accepted and did they offer
>shirov more than the money that kramnik got for losing against him even in case
>that he lose the match against kasparov?)


 The details are unclear. I have read that it was one million dollars total
purse. Shirov seems unwilling to give details(based on interviews I read). I too
think that Shirov should have got a chance to play. However, This is not
Kramnik's fault.
Regards
Tony



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