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Subject: Re: Is this one secret the rybka?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 00:11:14 01/05/06

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On January 05, 2006 at 00:39:01, Joseph Ciarrochi wrote:

>Rybka may have the greatest disdain for pawns of any other program.
>
>try this experiment out. Go to the start position of the chess board and remove
>the f2 pawn (as is typically done when a gm gives pawn odds).
>
>Here are the evaluations of different engines at depth of 15. Can you figure out
>which engine is not like the others?
>
>Rybka =       -.26
>fritz9 =      -.78
>fruit 2.2.1 = -.70
>Aristarch    = - .96
>
>Rybka seems to treat pawns with utter disdain. I wonder what would happen if you
>lowered the pawn value of the other engines to , say .50 or .75?
>
>(I know it is not this simple and all the engines will consider the pawns in the
>context of the position, but still, i find this amazing).
>
>Maybe pawns really are only with .75 in many positions
>
>best
>Joseph

No
Rybka simply understand that with more material on the board a pawn is less
important.

I suggest that you try the following position

New game - Fruit 2.2
[D]3qk3/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPP1PP/3QK3 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit:

1.e3
  µ  (-1.07)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
1.e3
  µ  (-1.03)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
1.e3 e6
  µ  (-0.91)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
1.e3 e6 2.Qg4
  µ  (-0.95)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  4kN
1.e3 e6 2.Qh5 Qf6
  µ  (-0.89)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  9kN
1.e3 e6 2.Qh5 Qf6 3.c3
  µ  (-0.97)   Depth: 8   00:00:00  18kN
1.e3 e6 2.Qh5 Qf6 3.c3 h6
  µ  (-0.94)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  37kN
1.e3 e6 2.Qh5 Qf6 3.c3 h6 4.Ke2
  µ  (-0.90)   Depth: 10   00:00:00  80kN
1.e3 e6 2.Qh5 Qf6 3.c3 h6 4.Ke2 b6
  µ  (-0.97)   Depth: 11   00:00:01  157kN
1.e3 e6 2.Qh5 h6 3.Ke2 Qf6 4.c3 b6 5.Qg4
  µ  (-0.98)   Depth: 12   00:00:02  383kN
1.e3 e6 2.Qh5 h6 3.c3 Qf6 4.Qc5 Qh4+ 5.g3 Qxh2
  µ  (-0.97)   Depth: 13   00:00:04  760kN
1.e3 e6 2.Qh5 h6 3.c3 Qf6 4.Qc5 Qh4+ 5.g3 Qxh2
  µ  (-0.99)   Depth: 14   00:00:08  1489kN
1.e3 e6 2.Qh5 h6 3.c3 Qf6 4.Qg4 Qe5 5.Qf4 Qa5
  µ  (-1.00)   Depth: 15   00:00:18  3277kN

(,  05.01.2006)



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