Author: Cap Ricardo SantAna
Date: 07:36:37 01/05/06
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On January 04, 2006 at 15:38:44, Joseph Ciarrochi wrote: Hello ok. your ideai is very close to mine :) First I analyse games with a good chess engine (said fritz or hiarcs or junior - I do not have schredder :( ) with itś own full analysis tool. I choose a value of 10 (0.1 pawn value) parameter. So, if engine finds a variation which is better than 0.1 pawn the move played, then it adds a variation. Ok. this is easy, because all "dirty" job is a computer one. Itś interesting that this analyed game gives me a good clue if one is playing or not with computer help (ok, I am considering that cheater which uses computer almost all time). After this, I use chessbase and analyse the game with one more two engines (fritz and hiarcs is my common choice). So, I begin selecting the moves played: 1 - for first engine choice, 2- for second engine choice, and 3 - for trhird choice. My problems begin now. What can be consider a cheater ? whow much moves ? thanks in advance Sant Ana >I am speculating here but..... > > >I think one way is to look at the moves the human makes and see how they are >ranked by a good engine. e.g., how often does the person choose the number 1 or >2 move suggested by the computer. > >I have heard that it is statistically unlikely for someone who is not a GM or >master to consistently choose a number 1 or 2 move. > >You could presumably analyze a massive number of games you know to be human and >find the average rank of the move by rating level (e.g., an 1800 player may may >on average pick a move that is rated 4th by computers, or tends to make x >percentage of rank 1, 2, 3 and 4 moves). Then you could analyze any new human >game and determine if the human is making moves that are statistically much >stronger than you would expect based on their rating. You could also catch >humans who are using the comptuer sometimes but not others. Their distribution >of ranked moves would be very different from other humans (e.g., they would make >alot of rank one and rank 4 or greater moves, but too few rank two and three >moves) > >This is just speculation mind you. I wonder how else it could be done? > >best >Joseph
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