Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 05:40:30 01/19/06
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On January 19, 2006 at 08:35:23, Uri Blass wrote: >On January 19, 2006 at 08:27:30, Rolf Tueschen wrote: > >>On January 19, 2006 at 03:00:07, Ernst Walet wrote: >> >>>On January 19, 2006 at 02:38:50, Tony Thomas Karippa wrote: >>> >>>>On January 18, 2006 at 16:36:09, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 18, 2006 at 16:30:58, Tony Thomas Karippa wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Most people would agree with me if I say you are the one that's wrong. >>>>>>Tony >>>>> >>>>>Yes, but they will also remember the voices from Paderborn which said "No, we >>>>>wont bust Rybka in the late endgames, we dont want to be unfair." Was that >>>>>promotion in Paderborn or sports? (Socrates speaking...) >>>>Who said that? Chilly pepper? Or Zappa? >>>>Tony >>> >>>I have stated, as operator of Rybka, that: >>> >>>1 Rybka was never challenged this way (if applicable). >>>2 There was a very pleasant atmosphere. >>>3 I nevertheless would have no problem if someone had tried it. >>> >>>My conclusion was that it was considered sportmanship not to push Rybka to this >>>point. RT has difficulties with that. >>> >>>Ernst. >> >> >>Ernst, no, sorry, >> >>I had not then and I have not now a problem with your attitude, let me be not >>misunderstood. I see a problem in what other people made out of the Rybka win in >>Paderborn, in the line, as if Rybka would be the proven, unanimous, clear, >>single, brilliant and all-time best program of the World. All I say is that this >>shouldnt be said on the base of Paderborn for the given reasons and on the base >>of the now existing data. No matter if Rybka wins test games after testgames, >>Rybka is in my eyes >> >>a) not even a completed engine, it is still in making, it's in a socalled >>rudimentary state, its strength has by no way been proven by any single test >>result; simply because all test results are still NOT significant; and we all >>know from experience that the real test for Rybka will come the moment when >>other programmers have begun to tune on Rybka itself, while today Rybka is tuned >>on everybody else; > >I think that you are clearly wrong here. > >It may be possible to tune a program against another program but not against all >programs. > > of course then the actual reports must be re-written; you can >>all see what will happen or what is possible in Hiarcs with these extra settings >>from Czub; only then we will know what Rybka can really do - and we certainly do >>hope that not the same thing will happen with Rybka what happened with Ruffian >>which once also was a new shooting star, then went xommercial and thereafter >>never was een again... (included its programmer BTW - on that background it must >>at least be allowed to remain somewhat friendly, sympathetically reserved, no?!) > >Ruffian is clearly a different case that is not relevant here. >Ruffian was never clearly the best engine even when it came commercial. > >Uri Can I record live from you, Uri, that on Jan 19th, Rybka is the best chessengine? Would you say such a thing?
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