Author: Uri Blass
Date: 05:35:23 01/19/06
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On January 19, 2006 at 08:27:30, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On January 19, 2006 at 03:00:07, Ernst Walet wrote: > >>On January 19, 2006 at 02:38:50, Tony Thomas Karippa wrote: >> >>>On January 18, 2006 at 16:36:09, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>> >>>>On January 18, 2006 at 16:30:58, Tony Thomas Karippa wrote: >>>> >>>>>Most people would agree with me if I say you are the one that's wrong. >>>>>Tony >>>> >>>>Yes, but they will also remember the voices from Paderborn which said "No, we >>>>wont bust Rybka in the late endgames, we dont want to be unfair." Was that >>>>promotion in Paderborn or sports? (Socrates speaking...) >>>Who said that? Chilly pepper? Or Zappa? >>>Tony >> >>I have stated, as operator of Rybka, that: >> >>1 Rybka was never challenged this way (if applicable). >>2 There was a very pleasant atmosphere. >>3 I nevertheless would have no problem if someone had tried it. >> >>My conclusion was that it was considered sportmanship not to push Rybka to this >>point. RT has difficulties with that. >> >>Ernst. > > >Ernst, no, sorry, > >I had not then and I have not now a problem with your attitude, let me be not >misunderstood. I see a problem in what other people made out of the Rybka win in >Paderborn, in the line, as if Rybka would be the proven, unanimous, clear, >single, brilliant and all-time best program of the World. All I say is that this >shouldnt be said on the base of Paderborn for the given reasons and on the base >of the now existing data. No matter if Rybka wins test games after testgames, >Rybka is in my eyes > >a) not even a completed engine, it is still in making, it's in a socalled >rudimentary state, its strength has by no way been proven by any single test >result; simply because all test results are still NOT significant; and we all >know from experience that the real test for Rybka will come the moment when >other programmers have begun to tune on Rybka itself, while today Rybka is tuned >on everybody else; I think that you are clearly wrong here. It may be possible to tune a program against another program but not against all programs. of course then the actual reports must be re-written; you can >all see what will happen or what is possible in Hiarcs with these extra settings >from Czub; only then we will know what Rybka can really do - and we certainly do >hope that not the same thing will happen with Rybka what happened with Ruffian >which once also was a new shooting star, then went xommercial and thereafter >never was een again... (included its programmer BTW - on that background it must >at least be allowed to remain somewhat friendly, sympathetically reserved, no?!) Ruffian is clearly a different case that is not relevant here. Ruffian was never clearly the best engine even when it came commercial. Uri
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