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Subject: Re: The superior Rybka chess knowledge (With Corrections)

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 05:27:30 01/19/06

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On January 19, 2006 at 03:00:07, Ernst Walet wrote:

>On January 19, 2006 at 02:38:50, Tony Thomas Karippa wrote:
>>On January 18, 2006 at 16:36:09, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>>On January 18, 2006 at 16:30:58, Tony Thomas Karippa wrote:
>>>>Most people would agree with me if I say you are the one that's wrong.
>>>Yes, but they will also remember the voices from Paderborn which said "No, we
>>>wont bust Rybka in the late endgames, we dont want to be unfair." Was that
>>>promotion in Paderborn or sports? (Socrates speaking...)
>>Who said that? Chilly pepper? Or Zappa?
>I have stated, as operator of Rybka, that:
>1 Rybka was never challenged this way (if applicable).
>2 There was a very pleasant atmosphere.
>3 I nevertheless would have no problem if someone had tried it.
>My conclusion was that it was considered sportmanship not to push Rybka to this
>point. RT has difficulties with that.

Ernst, no, sorry,

I had not then and I have not now a problem with your attitude, let me be not
misunderstood. I see a problem in what other people made out of the Rybka win in
Paderborn, in the line, as if Rybka would be the proven, unanimous, clear,
single, brilliant and all-time best program of the World. All I say is that this
shouldnt be said on the base of Paderborn for the given reasons and on the base
of the now existing data. No matter if Rybka wins test games after testgames,
Rybka is in my eyes

a) not even a completed engine, it is still in making, it's in a socalled
rudimentary state, its strength has by no way been proven by any single test
result; simply because all test results are still NOT significant; and we all
know from experience that the real test for Rybka will come the moment when
other programmers have begun to tune on Rybka itself, while today Rybka is tuned
on everybody else; of course then the actual reports must be re-written; you can
all see what will happen or what is possible in Hiarcs with these extra settings
from Czub; only then we will know what Rybka can really do - and we certainly do
hope that not the same thing will happen with Rybka what happened with Ruffian
which once also was a new shooting star, then went xommercial and thereafter
never was een again... (included its programmer BTW - on that background it must
at least be allowed to remain somewhat friendly, sympathetically reserved, no?!)

b) for all with the ideas Vas has published here Rybka is a very prospecting new
entry which let's all hearts of chessplayer beat at a higher rate, no doubt
about it.

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