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Subject: Re: Why credit Rybka's eval when it is the search??

Author: chandler yergin

Date: 07:31:41 02/06/06

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On February 05, 2006 at 19:41:52, Stephen A. Boak wrote:

>On February 05, 2006 at 18:15:26, enrico carrisco wrote:
>
>>I think the "SUPER" evaluation strength is imagined because the tactics are
>>stronger than anything else.  Somehow, in the midst of all the madness,
>>the eval gets the credit.
>
>>Sometimes people read what they want into the motives for why moves were
>>selected and "Rybka worship" requires that people think it evaluates these
>>things when it actually searches them.
>
>Which is more important, search or eval?
>
>Or perhaps their intertwined ability (neither gets top billing) to select
>relatively better moves, more often or better in more critical circumstances
>(than the opponent)?
>
>Do some programs perform eval (in any form) during search?
>
>It has often been said that the winner of a chess game is the player who makes
>the next to last mistake.
>
>Wonder what that means for comparing chess programs.  I'm sure they all make
>mistakes.  I'm sure they all are imperfect in some regard.
>
>Which program more likely makes only the next to the last mistake (& ends up the
>victor).
>
>Which program more likely makes the last mistake--and slips up more often in the
>opening, middle-game, and/or endgame, such that its opponent can convert the win
>from that position.
>
>Fascinating topic.  Not sure search or eval takes top billing in such a
>discussion.
>
>All comments welcome.
>
>--Steve
Programs/Comps don't make mistakes! They play the best move found... when it
comes time for them to move or, when you stop the analysis.
They are a Tool! We use them for enjoyment. Period!
I don't understand why people don't realize this!
cy



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