Author: Joseph Ciarrochi
Date: 23:07:28 02/06/06
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Subject: Re: 1st CEGT Championship with 40/120 repeated [ Post Followup (without quoting) ] [ Post Followup (with quoting) ] [ Computer Chess Resource Center ] [ Message Listing ] Posted by Joseph Ciarrochi (Profile) on February 07, 2006 at 02:05:53: In Reply to: Re: 1st CEGT Championship with 40/120 repeated posted by Heinz van Kempen on February 06, 2006 at 18:38:01: On February 06, 2006 at 18:38:01, Heinz van Kempen wrote: >>I would like to see a thematic 1. b4 tournament, but I guess I am strongly in >>the minority there. > >Hi Dann, > >1.b4 is really not bad and I used it for a long time in tournament chess to >avoid being killed by players with superior knowledge of opening chess theory. > >I also used it in my 25 years correspondence chess practice. > >These lines are definitely not exhausted by chess theory :-). > >Best Regards >Heinz Yes, I too would love to see b4. This is exactly the thing that would be good for your tournment, hienz. human super gm's refuse to play it. so lets force the engine super gms to play it. If black gets around 46% or better, then it is viable I would also love to see some thematic tourmements featuring the dragon or the KID. I would particularly like to see one on the accelerated dragon. I would also like to see a thematic tournement featuring the scandanavian, another opening i think is underutilized by super GM's. I would particularly like to see these two lines covered (pgn below diagrams; both openings recomended by im andrew martin) [D]rn2k2r/pp3ppp/2pbpn2/q3N2P/2BPb1P1/2N5/PPP2P2/R1BQK2R w KQkq - 0 11 Below is, imo, the most interesting and relatively unplayed line at the top level [D]2kr3r/ppq2p2/1n1b2p1/B1pPpp2/2P4P/1B6/PP2QPP1/2KR3R w - - 0 19 Hienz, tell me if you decide to test either of these. If not, I'll test them using very long time controls on my old faithful computer (though the games won't be as pretty as those generated by your multiple processor 6 million ghz machines.) [Event "?"] [Site "?"] [Date "????.??.??"] [Round "?"] [White "black scandi versus 7ne5"] [Black "?"] [Result "*"] [ECO "B01"] [PlyCount "20"] 1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qa5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nf3 c6 6. Bc4 Bf5 7. Ne5 e6 8. g4 Bg6 9. h4 Bd6 10. h5 Be4 * [Event "?"] [Site "?"] [Date "????.??.??"] [Round "?"] [White "black scandi with ne4 and nxf"] [Black "?"] [Result "*"] [ECO "B01"] [PlyCount "36"] 1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qa5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nf3 c6 6. Bc4 Bf5 7. Bd2 e6 8. Ne4 Qc7 9. Nxf6+ gxf6 10. Qe2 Nd7 11. O-O-O O-O-O 12. Nh4 Bg6 13. Bb3 c5 14. d5 Nb6 15. Nxg6 hxg6 16. Ba5 e5 17. c4 Bd6 18. h4 f5 * [ Post Followup (without quoting) ] [ Post Followup (with quoting) ] [ Computer Chess Resource Center ] [ Message Listing ] On February 07, 2006 at 01:17:05, Heinz van Kempen wrote: >Hi all, > >after more thoughts I find the idea to run the CEGT Championships 40/120 as >theme tournaments (like proposed by Joseph and Dann) in order to see if engines >will "write" new chess theory for example quite fascinating. > >Dann proposed 1.b4, a rather uncommon but not bad line also called Orang Utan, >Sokolsky or Polish opening, so the first double round robin could be with this >one. > >Here is something about the history taken from this site: > >http://www.angelfire.com/home/bstjean/sokolsky/ > >The origin of this spectacular opening is more or less well known. Tartakower >played it at the beginning of this century and supposedly had the idea of the >"b" climbing pawn after observing apes at the zoo. But Tartakower never took >this opening seriously. Bugayev, a Russian master, also played it in matches >and in a simultaneous game against Steinitz. Also, Englisch and Schlechter >played the Orangutan in games before Tartakower even dreamed of it! All these >players had opened a door that was to be entered by a young Russian master... >It is only after many excellent (but sadly many lost) analysis by Sokolsky and >many of his correspondence trials (and even OTB games!) that this opening really >got serious treatment. Sokolsky (and later Katalimov) produced the first serious >study of this fantastic debut and even played it! > >Nowadays, top players at the international level (OTB) almost never play it >(except for Ljubojevic and Larsen in their early days) and the Orang Utan is >usually used for its element of surprise. The only known exception that I know >is Gilles Mirallès (France champion) who played it for most of its career. >Besides these few trials in OTB games, the Orang Utan opening is mostly used in >correspondence chess. > >There is also a magazine and books dealing with this: > >http://www.angelfire.com/home/bstjean/sokolsky/pages/magazine.html > >So my question to Dann would be: Do you have a special interesting subvariation >(line) in mind? > >Joseph mentions the Kan variation. Any concrete line here? Please restrict it >then to a maximum of 12 moves (24 plies) we will give before the engines start >to calculate. > >Proposals for variatios are highly welcome. > >Best Regards >Heinz > >http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/
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