Author: Mark R. Anderson
Date: 21:29:04 02/10/06
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On February 10, 2006 at 11:43:02, George Tsavdaris wrote: >On February 10, 2006 at 11:32:31, Mark R. Anderson wrote: > >>On February 10, 2006 at 10:47:48, Sarah Reynolds wrote: >> >>>This program to me seems stronger then Rykba, it plays a mean game of chess and >>>doesn't give the human player any chances at all, great program i think. >> >>Sarah, >> >>I agree that Hiarcs 10 is a very strong engine, that it plays a mean game and >>doesn't give the human play any chances, and that it's a great program. Having >>said that, I must disagree with your other statement .... as much as I love >>Hiarcs and its very nice style and capabilities, Rybka is most definitely >>stronger. All of our testing and also inspection of the games between the >>engines confirms this many times. >> >>Hiarcs is a wonderful analysis engine ... it is very strong tactically (one of >>the top 4 or 5), plays very good speed chess, has a very good positional game, a >>very human-like style that is also very active and agressive, and also has good >>PV evaluation numbers. It also has a good endgame, but not as good as Shredder. >> I use it more than Fritz, Shredder, Fruit and Junior for analysis generally. >>However, I have been extremely impressed by Rybka's play and results (haven't we >>all?) and when using it to help analyze top human GM games, I find that it finds >>the "human" line of play better than other engines, and it finds these moves >>rather quickly also, which is impressive. Also, it is positionally without >>peer, IMHO. >> > >>The present version (1.01 Beta 13b) is a real beast, but when the final verizon >>comes out with improved search and also endgame heuristics, it will be a true >>monster. > >"Real beast", "True monster", what's the difference? Both will kill me and all >other programs out there! :-) > > While i'm always impressed when i see a new super strong program, with Rybka i >have the impression that it gets its Chess knowledge from another >dimension....No kidding. It seems to have a higher understanding of Chess. But >that is probably an illusion of me..... George ... I have such an impression too. These engines of ours are already intimidating enough to play against, and when you're psyched out like I am against Rybka, it doesn't help one's play! (Rybka is unimpressed with my play, even if I give it my best "Mikhail Tal" stare. LOL) So far, Rybka has shown me that it is a monster and I am an ant, to be stepped on. Of course, it makes me feel a bit better that it soundly defeats Fritz 9, Fruit 2.2.1, Hiarcs 10, Shredder 9, and Junior 9, so I guess I am in good company, anyway. Ha ha. Humbled by the Beast Regards, Mark Anderson > >>Oh, one more thing ... I agree with another poster here that Rybka >>"spots" and frustrates attempts to use closed positions and other >>"anti-computer" strategies to get draws or occasional wins. Recently, my >>girlfriend was really impressed when she saw me get a draw in a game with Tiger >>15 at Game/20. I said, "Thanks, I think I played pretty well, but this one will >>bring me down to earth." I then played a similar game with Rybka, and it >>basically turned my game into ground hamburger ... not a pretty sight. She just >>said, "Oh, that must be the really strong one you talk about." I said, "Yes, >>there's no fooling the Monster." (What's Russian for "Big Monster?" "Little >>Fish" doesn't seem to do justice to this one.) >>
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