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Subject: Re: 16 x 16 ???

Author: Duncan Roberts

Date: 09:45:38 02/12/06

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On February 12, 2006 at 12:04:45, Marc Bourzutschky wrote:

>On February 11, 2006 at 04:53:29, h.g.muller wrote:
>
>>Interesting. I did a lot of 4- and 5-men TBs including fairy pieces (mainly
>>leapers) in a systematic effort to assign an accurate end-game value to pieces
>>(in absense of pawns). It never occurred to me to use non-standard board-size,
>>though. I guess the 10x8 board is of practical interest, due to
>>Capablanca/Gothic Chess.
>>
>>Is your (or Marc's)work published somewhere?
>
>Vaclav Kotesovec has done a lot of work on fairy pieces, including leapers on
>generalized boards:
>
>http://web.telecom.cz/Vaclav.kotesovec/
>
>John Beasley and I looked at Q vs. R endings on generalized boards, because the
>lack of an obvious systematic winning procedure on 8x8 suggested o John it may
>not be a general win on larger boards.  Indeed, it is only a general win on
>boards up to 15x15, but on 16x16 it is in general a draw. John had also thought
>it would be a draw on 8x12 (which is used in a variant called "Modern Courier
>Chess") but the queen still wins there. This was published in the "British
>Endgame Study News" in June and September 2004.
>
>Regarding leapers, John Beasley, Noam Elkies, and I have studied "doublet
>leapers", which are pieces that combine two leapers into one piece.  There is
>only a small number of doublet leapers that can force mate, and only on board up
>to 16x16.  This was published in "Variant Chess" February 2005.
>
>We have also looked at "triplet leapers", combining three leapers into one.
>Here one can construct cases that win on an arbitrarily large board.  However,
>it is only a finite set, and there are some triplets for which we are not sure
>whether they are a general win or not.  I have run tablebases on up to 90x90 for
>some of these.
>
>-Marc

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duncn



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