Author: Heinz van Kempen
Date: 15:32:21 02/13/06
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On February 13, 2006 at 17:26:45, Joseph Ciarrochi wrote:
>I know it would be nice to have a white openign that scores 54 %..
>
>But in practical term, I think it would be pretty good if b4 scores 51 % at
>super GM level (which is the level of these games i think). It means that there
>is no inherent flaw in b4.
>
>Then, if you prepare b4, and your opponent does not prepare, I think you could
>get the opening up to 54% or better.
Hi Joseph,
that´s very true. It is definitely a weapon for surprise. When you then take
into account that many human players start to feel insecure being confronted
with something they do (very probably) not know sufficiently well you have the
psychological factor and this could lead to weaker play from the opponent
compared to his usual performance or at least to more time consumption in the
opening whereas you play with schemes you maybe are already acquainted with for
years and where you know the typical positions and traps. In fact I know a
player rated around 1800, but a real expert with 1.b4 and his score with white
is tremendous even against players rated 2000-2200 ELO.
>
>This discussion leads me to a suggestion for long testing. Would you folks be
>interested in testing the wing gambit against the french? My view is that it
>gives equal chances, but it does take the french player into totally
>uncomfortable territory
Joseph, we are interested in many things, the problem is only that we do not
want to neglect our basis 40/40. So we need additional testers helping us and
sending games. You and others are very welcome to do this (see CEGT forum).
Getting more support here it would be no prob for me to add one of my machines
AMDx64 x2 4200+ 24 hours a day and over months to a long-term project with
40/120 and maybe some other CEGT tester, too. But without support such CPU time
consuming efforts would be almost impossible in the long run. The Wing Gambit in
French Defence is surely another interesting one, and in Sicilian we have
another one. And there are more breathtaking lines, for example also 1.d4 f5
2.g4!?. An endless amount of rarely investigated openings.
>
>here is the position.
>
>[D] rnbqkbnr/pp3ppp/4p3/3pP3/1p6/P4N2/2PP1PPP/RNBQKB1R b KQkq - 0 5
>
>
>I insert a correspondance game that i won with it (against equal oponent), just
>to show you its potential (no computers used in this game). Yes there were some
>mistakes made but hopefully you won't notice. e.g., in the opening, I am now
>convinced 6. Bxa3 is incorrect. i think D4 is better
>
>
>
>[Event "ICC correspondence 2005Quad.33.04"]
>[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
>[Date "2005.08.25"]
>[Round "-"]
>[White "ozziejoe"]
>[Black "Bonefish"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ICCResult "Black resigns"]
>[Opening "French: Wing gambit"]
>[ECO "C00"]
>[NIC "FR.01"]
>[Time "14:00:06"]
>
>1. e4 e6 2. Nf3 d5 3. e5 c5 4. b4 cxb4 5. a3 bxa3 6. Bxa3 Bxa3 7. Nxa3 Ne7
>8. d4 Nbc6 9. Bd3 Ng6 10. Qd2 a6 11. h4 Bd7 12. h5 Nge7 13. h6 g6 14. Qf4
>Qb6 15. Nb5 Nf5 16. g4 Nb4 17. Na3 Nxd3+ 18. cxd3 Qb4+ 19. Kf1 Qc3 20. Kg2
>Qxd3 21. gxf5 gxf5 22. Qg5 Bc6 23. Rhe1 Qc3 24. Rec1 Qd3 25. Qf6 Rg8+ 26.
>Ng5 Qe4+ 27. Kf1 Qh1+ 28. Ke2 Qh5+ 29. Nf3 Qg6 30. Rg1 Qxf6 31. exf6
>{Black resigns}
>1-0
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