Author: Dave Gomboc
Date: 22:23:00 04/15/99
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On April 15, 1999 at 23:22:19, Micheal Cummings wrote: > >On April 15, 1999 at 22:47:53, Todd Durham wrote: > >>On April 15, 1999 at 20:55:37, Micheal Cummings wrote: >> >>> >>>On April 15, 1999 at 19:10:24, Bertil Eklund wrote: >>> >>>>On April 15, 1999 at 09:25:41, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 15, 1999 at 01:29:09, Paulo Soares wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>All people know that Pelé and Michael Jordan had been the >>>>>>best athletes of all the times in the soccer and basket >>>>>>(I wait that no Argentine reads this). Which was the >>>>>>best chess program of all the times? >>>>>>In my opinion, "Psion", of Richard Lang. >>>>>> >>>>>>Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>>Paulo Soares, from Brazil >>>>> >>>>>In my opinion, it is Sargon II (Dan and Kathe Spracklen, 1979). This engine on a >>>>>6502 processor has beaten several mainframes in an official event. >>>>> >>>>>Or maybe an engine from Richard Lang, maybe the one that was in the Mephisto >>>>>Amsterdam. It was such a "quantum leap" at that time (1985). >>>>> >>>>>Or maybe the version of Rebel that ran on a small ChessMachine in Madrid in >>>>>1992. This one too has beaten a fast multiprocessor program. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Christophe >>>>Agree with all the above but don´t forget Fidelity Prestige 1982, I still play >>>>with it from time to time.I remember Smyslov lost a blitz game against it. >>>>Sargon2 was a major step it crushed Chess challenger 7,10, Voice Boris and the >>>>rest. >>>>Chessmachine was a wonder in 1991. Genius1 and Genius2 were outstanding >>>>1992-1993. >>>> >>>>Bertil SSDF >>> >>>I think none of them were great, maybe for their day, but for all time, none of >>>them. You have to go bt which is the strongest today, because they would whip >>>butt of all the program mentioned above. So it would have to come from todays >>>crop of programs. >>> >>>I would also wonder if the great Pele if he was to play today how he would rate. >>>I am sure among some of the good players, but I do not think a standout. I could >>>go on and give examples but it would just bore you. >> >>I bet Michael Jordan couldn't hit a shot either, if he were playing in today's >>NBA. ;) >> >>Todd > >The Jordon Comparison is a bit off, He retired last year, not 20 or 30 years >ago. Thats like saying if Tiger Woods retired tomorrow that he would not be >among the best in todays golfers. > >You can olny make these types of comparison I think when people have been out of >the sport for a few years. And with some sports 2 years is enough. Look at >Gymnastics and Arial Freestyle Skiing, with the improved and harder tricks being >pulled of every 1/4 year, not every year, then those athaletes of the past >cannot be compared with those of today. Simply because in there day they were >great, but today they would not be as skilled or even make it on a national >sided with the way they used to play games. > >Anyway its getting off chess, and with chess it is harder comparing players. >IMHO > >regards > >Micheal This is IMO a poor way to assess greatness. Anyone with a B.Sc. in Mathematics today knows more calculus than Isaac Newton ever did, but that Isaac Newton was not a greater mathematician that most everyone with a B.Sc. in mathematics today would be a ludicrous statement indeed. Dave
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