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Subject: Re: Another nice position, and LGG 2.0 gets it (not Crafty 16.6 or CSTal II)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 21:51:49 05/14/99

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On May 14, 1999 at 17:33:38, Francis Monkman wrote:

>
>On May 14, 1999 at 16:54:56, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>Just looking at what you posted, this appears to be a case of a program
>>coming up with a random move for the wrong reason.  IE the eval of +.23 is
>>not exactly 'winning'.  And while the moves from CSTal/Crafty might not win
>>either, what makes Rad1 a winner?  And if it does, do you _really_ want a
>>program that will play such a move without having a clue why it is playing
>>it?
>
>Sorry Bob, but this is specious. LGG obviously has a good 'clue' as to the
>winning line.
>>
>>My opinion is that there are probably several reasonable moves here, none are
>>outright winning or losing...
>
>You'll appreciate I did some extensive analysis on this, but I'll pass it on to
>those
> better qualified than I, as you insist. (If anyone still has any doubts about
>the last one
>I posted, it was deemed an outright winner by two top GMs.)
>
>Francis

That's not my point.  I have watched LGG play many games on ICC.  I have seen
it have an eval of +1.5 when it is losing, or +1.5 when material is dead even
and it has no huge positional edge.  So what is convincing about an eval of
+.23? It obviously doesn't see that this is 'winning'.  Which means it it
playing that move for some "other" reason.  Most likely totally unrelated
to what happens assuming this is a tactical win...



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