Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 18:36:01 06/26/99
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On June 26, 1999 at 15:04:12, Chris Taylor wrote:
>On June 26, 1999 at 10:31:55, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On June 26, 1999 at 08:29:58, Chris Taylor wrote:
>>
>>>I have used Compare engine notation in Fritz 532 to analise the game. So, below
>>>is the fruits off a 30 sec/move, on a AMD 400. Programs used are Hiarcs6 And
>>>Hiarcs732
>>>
>>>This may give some idea of how play might have gone if only?........
>>>
>>>:-)
>>>
>>>[Event "Match game\60 game2"]
>>>[Site "chess club"]
>>>[Date "1999.06.25"]
>>>[Round "?"]
>>>[White "Richard uscf2265"]
>>>[Black "Hiarcs6 Cyrix233 16m"]
>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>[ECO "B23"]
>>>[WhiteElo "2265"]
>>>[BlackElo "2520"]
>>>[PlyCount "37"]
>>>[EventDate "1999.??.??"]
>>>
>>>1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 d6 3. f4 Nc6 4. Nf3 g6 5. Bc4 Bg7 6. O-O Nf6 7. d3 O-O 8. Qe1
>>>a6 {last book move. last book move} 9. a4 Bd7 ({Hiarcs 6.0: (461385N)} 9... Bd7
>>>10. Bd2 Nh5 11. Qb1 Qb6 12. Qa2 {0.17/7}) ({Hiarcs 7.32: (857189N)} 9... Bd7
>>>10. Bd2 Nh5 11. f5 gxf5 12. Qh4 Nf6 13. Ng5 fxe4 14. Ncxe4 {0.00/8}) 10. Qh4
>>>Nb4 ({Hiarcs 6.0: (766567N)} 10... Nb4 11. Bb3 Be6 12. Bxe6 Nxc2 13. Bxf7+ Rxf7
>>>14. Rb1 Nb4 15. d4 {-0.14/8}) ({Hiarcs 7.32: (1128379N)} 10... Nb4 11. Rf2 Ng4
>>>12. Re2 Bf6 13. Qg3 Qa5 14. h3 Nh6 {-0.12/8}) 11. f5 gxf5 ({
>>>Hiarcs 6.0: (1612436N)} 11... gxf5 12. Rf2 b5 13. Bb3 bxa4 14. Bxa4 fxe4 15.
>>>Nxe4 Ng4 16. Re2 {-0.78/8}) ({Hiarcs 7.32: (2340790N)} 11... gxf5 12. Bh6 Nxc2
>>>{-0.63/8}) 12. Bh6 Nxc2 ({Hiarcs 6.0: (1429805N)} 12... Nxc2 13. Rac1 Nb4 14.
>>>Bxg7 Kxg7 15. e5 Ng4 16. h3 Nxe5 17. Nxe5 dxe5 18. Qg3+ Kf6 {-0.77/7}) ({
>>>Hiarcs 7.32: (969326N)} 12... Nxc2 13. Rac1 Nb4 {-0.63/7}) 13. Rac1 Bxh6 ({
>>>Hiarcs 6.0: (756147N)} 13... Bxh6 14. Qxh6 Nb4 15. e5 Ng4 16. Qg5+ Kh8 17. Qh5
>>>h6 18. exd6 exd6 {-0.78/7}) ({Hiarcs 7.32: (876293N)} 13... Nb4 14. Qg5 Ne8 15.
>>>exf5 Bxf5 16. Qxf5 Bxh6 {-0.63/7}) 14. Qxh6 Nb4 ({Hiarcs 6.0: (1106186N)} 14...
>>>Nb4 15. Ng5 e5 16. g3 Qe7 17. exf5 {-0.79/7}) ({Hiarcs 7.32: (4533065N)} 14...
>>>Nd4 15. Ng5 Be6 16. e5 {0.02/9}) 15. Ng5 e5 ({Hiarcs 6.0: (3292930N)} 15... e5
>>>16. exf5 d5 17. Bxd5 Bc8 18. a5 Nbxd5 19. Nxd5 Qxd5 20. Qxf6 {0.71/7}) ({
>>>Hiarcs 7.32: (3979343N)} 15... Qe8 16. Rf4 b5 17. Nxh7 Ng4 18. Qxf8+ Qxf8 19.
>>>Nxf8 Rxf8 20. exf5 bxc4 21. Rxg4+ Kh8 22. dxc4 Bxf5 {2.17/7}) 16. exf5 d5 ({
>>>Hiarcs 6.0: (1601236N)} 16... d5 17. Nxh7 Nxh7 18. f6 Nxf6 19. Qg5+ Kh7 20.
>>>Rxf6 Qxf6 21. Qxf6 dxc4 22. dxc4 {2.53/8}) ({Hiarcs 7.32: (4588573N)} 16... Bc6
>>>17. Nxh7 Ng4 18. Qg6+ Kh8 19. Qh5 d5 20. Nxf8+ Kg8 21. Qxg4+ Kxf8 {5.43/8}) 17.
>>>Bxd5 c4 ({Hiarcs 6.0: (4314277N)} 17... c4 18. Nxh7 Ng4 19. Qxf8+ Qxf8 20. Nxf8
>>>Rxf8 21. dxc4 Ne3 22. Rf3 Nbxd5 23. Rg3+ Kh8 24. cxd5 Nxf5 {4.36/8}) ({
>>>Hiarcs 7.32: (3565208N)} 17... Kh8 18. Bxb7 Nxd3 19. Nxh7 Nxh7 20. f6 Rg8 21.
>>>Be4 Rxg2+ 22. Kxg2 Qg8+ 23. Qg7+ {5.56/8}) 18. dxc4 Qb6+ ({
>>>Hiarcs 6.0: (2671382N)} 18... Bxa4 19. Nxh7 {5.27/7}) ({Hiarcs 7.32: (3463166N)
>>>} 18... Kh8 19. Nce4 Nbxd5 20. cxd5 Qb6+ 21. Kh1 Bxf5 22. Rxf5 Qxb2 23. Qxf6+
>>>Kg8 {9.42/8}) 19. Kh1 1-0
>>
>>
>>
>>_NONE_ of this is any good. It misses the point that the human _understands_
>>a long-term attack while the computer does not. So why bother having a computer
>>try to carry out the human-side of such a game? IE if the human blows Hiarcs
>>6 up, who says that a computer can play the human side and still do that?
>
>Sorry Bob, I do not understand what you mean? This was just to see what Hiarcs
>6 and Hiarcs 7/32 did that might be different, from the Dos version. I haave no
>desire to waste any time, but since I was out at the shops, the silicon monster
>did a bit on number crunching, thats all?
>I am not a very good chess player, so this is the only link to a better
>player than I will ever be???????????????????????????
Sorry if I misunderstood your output. Several had mentioned trying hiarcs 7
vs something else from a few positions... and that is a bad test... because
I don't know of _any_ program that can carry out a decent king-side attack.
IE it dates back to the DB vs Kasparov position, game 6. Several were saying
that any micro could win as white after Nxe6, but when put to the test, none
could even squeak out a draw with white, with a good IM playing black. So using
a computer to play out a game where one side was a human might show how the
computer would play, but not how the game would end up...
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