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Subject: Re: fritz once again leads from the front in the fight against the human rac

Author: Paul Richards

Date: 09:57:48 07/02/99

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On July 02, 1999 at 12:33:07, Peter Kappler wrote:

>
><silly teenager comment snipped...>  :-)

That's wasn't directed at you, I just think that must be the target audience
when I see a post that essentially says: HIARCS ROOOOOOOLLLZZZ!!!!. :)  I won't
mention any names though (tania). :)

>I have read some of Bob Hyatt's comments on the matter, and I don't agree with
>him.  I suspect that too many people here take Bob's word as the gospel on all
>matters.  (note: I have the utmost respect for Dr. Hyatt, and this isn't
>intended as an insult against him.)

Well when it comes to Crafty internals his word is gospel, but you don't have to
be a programmer to realize that there could be number of resource allocation
issues, and that one program may have a different issue than another.  Crafty
makes assumptions about pondering, Fritz needs huge hash tables, etc.  It's also
clear that we just don't know what the issues are, which means there are an
unknown number of variables.  It's also common sense that programmers have
little reason to design or test for this situation. They're too busy debugging
the parallel code for the serious competition. All of this is avoided with
two-machine testing, though even there one program may do better than another if
you use Xeon processors instead of regular pentiums, etc.  But when someone
raves about how Hiarcs kicks the living crap out of Fritz on a single machine
test in a dozen games, when the two machine testing with a larger number of
games disagrees, it does more to show the problems of single machine testing
than really say anything about the relative strength of the programs.




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