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Subject: Re: 3.70..*10^46 is the upper bound

Author: Andrew Dados

Date: 15:31:43 07/12/99

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On July 12, 1999 at 18:23:45, Andrew Dados wrote:

>On July 12, 1999 at 12:41:18, blass uri wrote:
>
>[snipped]
>
>>some numbers:
>>The upper bound:
>>3.70106301212072366*10^46
>>29 pieces on the board:2.18...*10^46
>>28 pieces on the board 9.45...*10^45
>>30 pieces on the board 4.58...*10^45
>>
>>Uri
>
> (Note that those 3 figures above add up to 3.9*10^46, which is somehow more
>then your total...)
>
> I will try to put my idea into small program as soon as I get some time, but
>for now let me describe it:
>   Let's take into account possible pawn configurations.
>For each file if no capture was done (32 pieces on board) we have 15 distinct
>positions for one white and one black pawn... which gives us 15^8 pawn
>configurations (2,526,890,625). This is many orders less then your bound there.
>   Now lets consider one capture. I'll mark P=pawn; O=other piece.
>We have 4 possibilities:
>
>1. OxO (piece captures piece) - no pawnstructure changes; still 15^8 pawn
>configurations; no promotions possible;
>2. PxP: up to 2 promotions can be done here:
>  2a) no promotions; pawn structure number can be estimated at 15^7*6*4;
>  2b) 1 prom; psn<=15^7*(6+4);
>  2c) 2 proms; psn<=15^6*6*6;
>3. OxP: a) 15^7*6 with no proms and
>        b) 15^7 with one promotion

oops... this below should be PxO case...

>4. PxP a) 15^7*6*4 with no proms;
>       b) 15^7*(6+4) and one prom
>       c) 15^6*6*6 and 2 proms...
> For second capture each of cases above breaks down further etc.... looks like
>mundane work, but smart program can surely be written.
> I think one should give it a try....
>
>One more thought: positions with, say,  0-0 castling availible are less then
>(1/48)*(1/48) of all positions (K is positioned on e1  in 1/48 of all
>positions), so neglible. EP can be available way more often, but still below 1/8
>of all positions.
>-Andrew-



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