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Subject: Re: SEE for forward pruning in the Q. search - I'm confused!

Author: Bas Hamstra

Date: 18:57:23 08/11/99

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This is not a good example of how SEE can error. However there are many examples
possible. I too think SEE can miss things, like all sorts of pins and throw out
captures when it shouldn't. However, as a percentage of all captures, how often
does that happen? I think there is consensus that the errors are more than
compensated by the reduction of qnodes.

A cheap alternative is to throw captures out when after a capture the capturing
piece is hanging (and A > D).

Regards,
Bas Hamstra.



On August 11, 1999 at 16:12:07, Tom King wrote:

>I must be missing something obvious with using SEE to prune
>in the Q. search. If I understand right, "losing" captures
>(according to the SEE) are pruned right out. But I fail to
>see how this won't screw up big time.
>
>Let's take an example. Now assume we have a white bishop on G5
>and a black knight on F6, and the knight is protected by a pawn on G7.
>Now the SEE might well assume that BxN is a loser (assuming that
>the bishop is worth a fraction more than the knight), because
>after BxN, gxB, white has lost a bishop for a knight. But it
>might be that this is in fact a very good capture, because it
>destroys black's kingside. And a program with the SEE Q. pruning
>might not want to play this? Am I missing something obvious
>here?
>
>Cheers
>Tom



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