Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 01:21:48 08/17/99
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On August 17, 1999 at 01:41:13, Ralf Elvsén wrote: >Hi Thorsten > >The problem I have with your posts about CSTal is your >(over?)enthusiasm and the unrestrained ovations to its >style and strength. IMO you read something in my posts that is not there. I like CSTal. no doubt. but i do in the same way like hiarcs or mchess or rebel or chess-tiger or zarkov or wchess or isichess and other programs too. >As I remember it (and correct me if >I'm wrong) you posted three games vs Hiarcs 7.32, all won by >CSTal. One win was due to a mistake by Hiarcs other people >couldn't reproduce. I also can't recall you saying that these >were the only three games the programs had played (but then >again, I don't have the post in front of me). when i post 3 games i have played 3 games. i do play many games. in the moment i do play cstal-anmon. When i am playing x vs. y i cannot in the same time play x vs. z. I created a style that overstresses the tal-attack because hiarcs has still a king-safety problem. >I am not saying that you are giving us flawed, selected >games. It just would be nice if you added something like >"...I have played these three games only..." and "...due >to an inexplicable move by Hiarcs in one game..." . Then I >would give more attention to the results (since I absolutely >have no reason to believe otherwise than that you are a honest >and credible person), and (who knows) I might buy a copy of >that excellent program :) it is not my intention that you should buy something. i want to know about the programs. buying them is a very nice thing, but also a very passive consumer thing. >As for Hiarcs having kingside attack-problems >as you mentioned, that is true. so - what is your problem. when i am posting the real-things, and you believe the same, you only wonder because i got my results in a different way YOU got them? Look - you play with the programs and get your results. i do the same. i don't need many games to find out something. i have created a special style against hiarcs. no wonder that this style gets a 2-0 against hiarcs, because in my style i have stressed the king-attack sliders. therefore tal using it plays crazy king-attacks. since you and i come to the same conclusion that hiarcs has a problem with this, it is only logical that i get 3-0 and others 2-0. you would find it better if i would have played 20 or 50 games ? why ? because than you would better believe the impossible ? because presenting 2 games gives you the unconscious feeling that my data is not right. ok . i do understand. you need to get more data to believe. you are a believer in the amount of data. i have nothing with you believing in quantity. but i work in a different way. i don't eat much fast food, and believe it would do me a good thing, i like to eat good food, of high quality. fresh salad and no fast food. if you believe that your mass of fast food would be better for your body, because it is a bigger amount of it, than that is YOUR believe. please see this as a metapher. as an image for the amount of chess-games. >If you can exploit >it easily(?), that is interesting. >And again, no insinuations intended, just some friendly >advice for your "marketing campaign" :) there is no marketing campaign. i like mark and his program. in the same way i like chris and his program. and others too. i work with anybody i like and i have fun and we get good progress. no matter how strong his program is. Remember that predecessors of cstal were not much strong. all i want is to show that cstal is able to play good results against the top programs IF you give it fair conditions. If you give the slowest NPS-program the slowest CPU (Cyrix-bullshit e.g.) you will get bad results. > Regards, Ralf
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