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Subject: Re: Change of Subject

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 00:12:14 08/25/99

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On August 24, 1999 at 21:23:59, Terry Ripple wrote:

>On August 24, 1999 at 20:46:14, James Robertson wrote:
>
>>On August 24, 1999 at 20:28:19, KarinsDad wrote:
>>
>>>On August 24, 1999 at 19:18:15, Georg v. Zimmermann wrote:
>>>
>>>>Are you talking about Bullet against other progs or against humans?
>>>>
>>>>And by the way : I bet Fritz5 is strongest, cause it is a very fast searcher,
>>>>much faster than Hiarcs and Genius.
>>>
>>>I get confused on this fast searcher is better at speed chess issue.
>>>
>>>From my understanding, Fritz5 (.32) handles about 10 times as many nodes per
>>>second as Hiarcs7.32 (give or take on the same hardware).
>>>
>>>To me, this would mean that Fritz5 would get 1+ ply deeper, but well below 2
>>>ply. So, Fritz5 would go down about 7+ ply on a fast system in 1 second and
>>>Hiarcs7 would go down about 6 ply in 1 second. Does this really correspond to a
>>>REAL significant ability considering that it's only one more ply?
>>>
>>>Doesn't 1 ply only correspond to about 50-70 elo (when you are talking so few
>>>ply) and couldn't that be recovered in a lot of cases due to the heavier
>>>evaluation in a slow searcher (i.e. there are other considerations than just
>>>material gain)? To me, it would seem like the fast searcher would not have THAT
>>>big of an advantage.
>>>
>>>KarinsDad :)
>>
>>Also, remember that better move ordering makes fewer NPS. So Hiarcs could in
>>fact be searching deeper and have a lower NPS. My program's NPS has fallen from
>>(if I remember correctly) around 600k/second to about 100k/second and the 100/k
>>second plays _way_ better chess, bullet or otherwise.
>>
>>James
>------------
> I read quotes that stated that Hiarcs7.32 is considered by a far margin, the-
>strongest 1 min-Blitz player in the world!!!
>
>Regards,Terry

It's merely a marketing statement.  Don't take it as having anything to do with
the real world (outside the Fritz-interface!)

Dave



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