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Subject: Re: Moderation: What Did He Say?

Author: odell hall

Date: 23:27:37 09/16/99

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On September 17, 1999 at 00:06:09, Mark Young wrote:

>On September 16, 1999 at 21:06:24, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>On September 16, 1999 at 19:29:53, Thom Perry wrote:
>>
>>>On September 16, 1999 at 18:55:01, Bradley S., Short wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 16, 1999 at 17:53:52, odell hall wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 16, 1999 at 13:16:08, Bradley S., Short wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>The last time I even used Chessmaster 3000 was on a 486/50. Lately
>>>>>>I have been playing around with it on a Celeron 366 and it is much
>>>>>>improved.
>>>>>>Beat Novag Sapphire 5 to 0 at game in 60 minutes.
>>>>>>Draw against CM5500 at 3 min per move.
>>>>>>Draw against CM6000 at 3 min per move.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It takes time to play these 3 min per move games but so far CM3000 hasnt
>>>>>>been beaten. It can see over 200,000 postitions per second. more
>>>>>>four times 5500 or 6000.
>>>>>>Both 5500 and 6000 are much more sophisticated programs with better
>>>>>>algorithms so they would no doubt defeat 3000 in serious matches but
>>>>>>still I am quite pleased with the old boy.
>>>>>>I used 3000 to learn to play the game and back then it really used to
>>>>>>make short work of me. As I got stronger I began to see its weaknesses..
>>>>>>Later I got 4000 and went back to getting spanked.
>>>>>>But now that the hardware is 10 times faster 3000 made a significant leap
>>>>>>in strength. Enough to interest me again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Brad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you ask me Chessmaster 3000 is rather weak, I beat it like a step-child
>>>>>when I had my cyrix 233
>>
>>Stop and think for a moment and perhaps you can come up with a very nice analogy
>>or metaphor involving someone of a different race.  Imagine for a moment how mad
>>a whole bunch of people would get if you used this analogy in this group, and
>>your best response to this would perhaps be to go hide under a rock.
>>
>>Now imagine an analogy involving some light belligerent intent, or reference to
>>a meat product, or something like that.  If you use this analogy, perhaps it
>>offends someone, and your response would be something like, "excuse me for
>>living, buster".
>>
>>There has been a complaint about the analogy at the end of the quoted post.  I
>>think the analogy is somewhere between the two situations described in my
>>previous two paragraphs.  I can see the point of the complaint, but I don't want
>>to delete the post.  I would ask that people consider carefully the effect their
>>words will have on the large and diverse population of people who read CCC, and
>>please try to use images that won't result in complaints to the CCC moderator
>>alias.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>bruce
>>
>>PS.  It is possible that another moderator may feel differently and delete the
>>thread.  If so, nevermind.
>
> Excuse me a moment, but I have a complaint about the aforementioned complaint.
>First I think that complaining is offensive unless of course it is used to
>complain about a previous complaint. Therefore I would like to register this
>offence. Next I believe that is imposible to write most anything without risking
>offending someone whether though intent, misunderstanding or just plain contrary
>thin-skinned individuals. (Please excuse the use of the wording "thin-skinned"
>for those of you out there that may be epidermally chanllenged.)
>
> Now at times we all write things that offend through intent, and even that at
>times should be certainlly allowable. Since some people are certainly highly
>offended at even the slightest offence. For instance if I say I don't like your
>favorite chess program you might be offended. Now for those that broady
>intrepret the writtings of others, misunderstanding can occur which offends.
>(Please excuse the use of the word "broad" for those that may broadly (oops
>sorry again) interpret the use of that word.) Surely the author of such posts
>can not be held responsible for the interpretations of such people. And lastly
>those that are easily offended will find themselves offended with this post, and
>this sentence in fact. Heck, they may even be offended by the word heck or even
>by this word...no wait maybe this one...or that one...no the one up there. Well,
>you can just never tell. And for this last type of individual the best advice I
>can give them is to "get a life" but of course this may be too offensive for
>them to hear.


 I could not have said it better myself, I think we have to look at what the
intent of the author was before we make judgments about what he says. It is
clear that I meant no offense , so why should people be so rediculously petty,
ofcourse you can never please everyone, expecially people who go around looking
for faults and imperfections in everything. Simply a folk saying in my neck of
the woods that transcends class, and social status, perhaps not the kings
English exactly , but certainly nothing worthy of being censored.



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