Author: odell hall
Date: 23:27:37 09/16/99
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On September 17, 1999 at 00:06:09, Mark Young wrote: >On September 16, 1999 at 21:06:24, Bruce Moreland wrote: > >>On September 16, 1999 at 19:29:53, Thom Perry wrote: >> >>>On September 16, 1999 at 18:55:01, Bradley S., Short wrote: >>> >>>>On September 16, 1999 at 17:53:52, odell hall wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 16, 1999 at 13:16:08, Bradley S., Short wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>The last time I even used Chessmaster 3000 was on a 486/50. Lately >>>>>>I have been playing around with it on a Celeron 366 and it is much >>>>>>improved. >>>>>>Beat Novag Sapphire 5 to 0 at game in 60 minutes. >>>>>>Draw against CM5500 at 3 min per move. >>>>>>Draw against CM6000 at 3 min per move. >>>>>> >>>>>>It takes time to play these 3 min per move games but so far CM3000 hasnt >>>>>>been beaten. It can see over 200,000 postitions per second. more >>>>>>four times 5500 or 6000. >>>>>>Both 5500 and 6000 are much more sophisticated programs with better >>>>>>algorithms so they would no doubt defeat 3000 in serious matches but >>>>>>still I am quite pleased with the old boy. >>>>>>I used 3000 to learn to play the game and back then it really used to >>>>>>make short work of me. As I got stronger I began to see its weaknesses.. >>>>>>Later I got 4000 and went back to getting spanked. >>>>>>But now that the hardware is 10 times faster 3000 made a significant leap >>>>>>in strength. Enough to interest me again. >>>>>> >>>>>>Brad >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you ask me Chessmaster 3000 is rather weak, I beat it like a step-child >>>>>when I had my cyrix 233 >> >>Stop and think for a moment and perhaps you can come up with a very nice analogy >>or metaphor involving someone of a different race. Imagine for a moment how mad >>a whole bunch of people would get if you used this analogy in this group, and >>your best response to this would perhaps be to go hide under a rock. >> >>Now imagine an analogy involving some light belligerent intent, or reference to >>a meat product, or something like that. If you use this analogy, perhaps it >>offends someone, and your response would be something like, "excuse me for >>living, buster". >> >>There has been a complaint about the analogy at the end of the quoted post. I >>think the analogy is somewhere between the two situations described in my >>previous two paragraphs. I can see the point of the complaint, but I don't want >>to delete the post. I would ask that people consider carefully the effect their >>words will have on the large and diverse population of people who read CCC, and >>please try to use images that won't result in complaints to the CCC moderator >>alias. >> >>Thanks, >> >>bruce >> >>PS. It is possible that another moderator may feel differently and delete the >>thread. If so, nevermind. > > Excuse me a moment, but I have a complaint about the aforementioned complaint. >First I think that complaining is offensive unless of course it is used to >complain about a previous complaint. Therefore I would like to register this >offence. Next I believe that is imposible to write most anything without risking >offending someone whether though intent, misunderstanding or just plain contrary >thin-skinned individuals. (Please excuse the use of the wording "thin-skinned" >for those of you out there that may be epidermally chanllenged.) > > Now at times we all write things that offend through intent, and even that at >times should be certainlly allowable. Since some people are certainly highly >offended at even the slightest offence. For instance if I say I don't like your >favorite chess program you might be offended. Now for those that broady >intrepret the writtings of others, misunderstanding can occur which offends. >(Please excuse the use of the word "broad" for those that may broadly (oops >sorry again) interpret the use of that word.) Surely the author of such posts >can not be held responsible for the interpretations of such people. And lastly >those that are easily offended will find themselves offended with this post, and >this sentence in fact. Heck, they may even be offended by the word heck or even >by this word...no wait maybe this one...or that one...no the one up there. Well, >you can just never tell. And for this last type of individual the best advice I >can give them is to "get a life" but of course this may be too offensive for >them to hear. I could not have said it better myself, I think we have to look at what the intent of the author was before we make judgments about what he says. It is clear that I meant no offense , so why should people be so rediculously petty, ofcourse you can never please everyone, expecially people who go around looking for faults and imperfections in everything. Simply a folk saying in my neck of the woods that transcends class, and social status, perhaps not the kings English exactly , but certainly nothing worthy of being censored.
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