Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 13:38:03 09/17/99
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On September 17, 1999 at 12:43:58, Igor Syry wrote: >On September 17, 1999 at 00:10:57, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On September 16, 1999 at 23:14:08, James B. Shearer wrote: >> >>>On September 16, 1999 at 09:56:09, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>There are two issues. 1 in 100 is pretty close to zero and probably within >>>>acceptable bounds. the main issue is 'crafty' on ICC. Note that it runs 24 >>>>hours a day, 7 days a week. But it doesn't take much to figure out that I do >>>>lots of other things on this machine, so crafty runs at a "nice 20" level. If >>>>you play it during the day, you are _guaranteed_ to play at least one game where >>>>it hardly searches at all for several consecutive moves, such as when I am >>>>making a new linux kernel, or compiling gcc, or working on various other >>>>programs I fiddle with all the time, including crafty itself. It is very likely >>>>that out of 30 games in one day, one or two will be like playing crafty on an >>>>old 8086, nodes-per-second wise, because of this. >>>> >>>>That is why I usually encourage anyone to specifically ask to play a match so >>>>that I can set things up where this doesn't happen, and you get to play the >>>>'real' crafty without it getting crushed when another compile is fired off... >>>> >>>>I save _all_ pgn games from both crafty and scrappy... what was your handle >>>>when you played and I'll see if I can scrape up the pgn for the losses to see >>>>what might have gone wrong, if anything... >>> >>> My ICC handle is rabid. Btw the statistics I gave for my play vrs >>>crafty were wrong. I used the statistics command in cblight. I don't what the >>>heck this command is doing but it is not generating correct statistics. Maybe >>>it is being confused by players with similar names to crafty such as >>>craftycrafty. (The search command on ICC definitely seems to be confused by >>>similar names. If I do "search crafty rabid" I get the correct result but if I >>>do "search rabid crafty" some craftycrafty games are included.) It appears I >>>actually had 3 wins and 3 draws in about 40 games. Most of these games were in >>>1998. >>> James B. Shearer >> >> >>ah hell... that is a problem everywhere... ICC can't get it right either as >>the 'search' command will match all players that have the same starting chars >>for the handle. IE search crafty will get games by crafty, craftycrafty, and >>anybody else that starts with crafty. > >To avoid expanded search try putting a (!) at the end of the search expression, >for ex: > >search crafty! rabit > >Igor > A much more 'sane' approach: the search command should be search crafty* rabid if I really want names that start with crafty but they can have anything after that. IE regular expressions are known the world over. The "!" trick is an ugly hack that is 180 degrees out of phase with normalcy. :) Bob Of course, ICC doesn't do regular expressions, so the above * trick will not work. But it ought to... > >> >>I did write a pgn parser that will suck in pgn games, grab the names and >>results, and summarize the entire file, player by player. Since ICC/chess.net/ >>fics only emails me crafty/scrappy games, I have a chance of getting good data. >>To use ICC's search you have to watch what you search for. >> >>But in any case, if you'd like to play a series of games, most any time control, >>rated or unrated, let me know. 1998 was either pentium pro, or if the games >>were fairly late in 1998, quad pentium pro. It is quite a lot faster now, as >>well as playing better and more anti-drawish than back then. >> >>It would be fun to see whether you can lock things up, even if you make a >>mistake and lose... I'm working on that...
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