Author: Dan Ellwein
Date: 09:45:43 12/16/99
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On December 16, 1999 at 08:54:03, walter irvin wrote: >On December 16, 1999 at 08:10:03, Steffen Jakob wrote: > >>On December 16, 1999 at 04:13:55, Tom Kerrigan wrote: >> >>>On December 16, 1999 at 02:21:46, Michael Neish wrote: >>>>I'm as interested in computer Chess as the next person, >>>>I suppose, and it would do my motivation no harm at all >>>>to know whether there are any practical applications to >>>>the techniques used for Chess programming. So, are >>>>these techniques so specialised that they are useful >>>>only within the game of Chess and not to any real >>>>applications (or even to other games)? Does computer >>>>Chess come under the category of AI anyway? Has AI >>>>research gained anything from Chess, or vice-versa? >>> >>>I think the "mindset" of a chess programmer can be useful to solve other >>>problems. For example, counting doubled pawns is obviously only useful in chess, >>>but a chess programmer can approach a new problem and think, "is there anything >>>I can do that's similar to counting doubled pawns?" >>> >>>IMHO, a computer playing chess is obviously artifically intelligent. I think >>>everybody will agree that it takes intelligence to play chess, and computers >>>quite clearly play chess. Now, I'm not saying they're creative or clever or >>>human-like, but I think they're clearly displaying some intelligence. >> If one characteristic of intelligence is the capacity to store information, then computers meet this requirement. I think one reason computers appear to have intelligence is that intelligence is 'imparted' to the computer by the programmer through his program. The ability to make decisions is programmed into the program which then allows the computer to make decisions giving the computer an appearence (or form) of intelligence. You might say that computers are made in the 'image' of the programmer. This 'image' gives rise to intelligence. >>Tom, would you say that an engine which knows the chess rules but makes >>completely random moves shows intelligence? I dont think so. >> >>If not, would you say that an engine which knows the chess rules, has alpha beta >>and a random eval function shows intelligence? Here the answer is not so clear, >>because this engine will play good chess if you give it enough time (mobility, >>bla bla ...). >> >>So what makes an engine intelligent? The fact that it makes "good" moves or the >>fact that it makes good moves because of some human-like knowledge? >> >>Greetings, >>Steffen. > >as far as that goes what about the human that plays real sucky chess .is his >games devoid of intelligence??? to a good player it seems so .but that good >player seems devoid to the GM or IM ?? so i guess there are many different >levels of intelligence .but does a computer have to arrive at the best move the >same way a human does to be intelligent or for that matter do all humans arrive >at the same moves the same way ?????????????????
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