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Subject: Re: Conspiracy -- conshmiracy

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 18:56:48 01/19/00

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On January 19, 2000 at 18:00:09, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>I don't remember any problems.  I found Be4 after a 21 ply search that took
>almost 2 days.  Your program found h5 that Kasparov said no program would play.
>I didn't (myself) spend a lot of time on axb5 but didn't see anything remarkable
>about that....
>
>So what strange move can't we explain or produce?

I don't remember this.  I remember that Be4 had approximately the same score as
the other move, but I don't think that anyone "found" it with their stock
program.

This whole thing is some serious bad deja vu.  If Amir hasn't said it yet, he's
going to say that the move he's interested in is axb5, not Be4.  We went through
this all before, at least twice.

Mine couldn't find either of the DB moves but I don't think that it matters.
The initial suggestion was something to the effect of:  "How could a computer do
that!  It's giving up a chance to win three pawns!"  But I do know that the
score is not anywhere near +3 if you search long enough, and I don't think it is
unbelievable that a computer could do what DB did.  The value of the position
closes on zero if you search long enough, and I'm willing to believe that DB
burped somewhere on the way to zero, and out came something a little strange.

Certainly this is more believable than the alternative, which is some deep
conspiracy to cheat.  That's just irresponsible, I think.  I can't believe that
some human analyzed some other line, got insanely worried that the computer
would fall into some awful tactical line, cheated, and then covered it up.  If
you've been working on something like this for a long time you aren't going to
lose confidence in its ability to spot tactics, and you certainly aren't going
to overrule it on a tactical issue based upon your own analysis, especially when
you can't verify your analysis using DB, since it is playing.

bruce



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