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Subject: Re: SSDF Junior 6 K6-2 - Shredder 2 P200MMX game 15-18, Now 14,5-3,5

Author: Mark Young

Date: 15:36:20 01/24/00

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On January 24, 2000 at 14:19:53, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On January 24, 2000 at 11:44:48, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>>excactly this makes no sense.
>>
>>test them all on 450.
>>and test top programs versus weaker programs.
>>
>>but throw out the very old programs like shredder2.
>>
>>this makes no sense. your statistics get weakened by these
>>results. the results are not reflecting the strength.
>>
>>all on 450.
>>top programs + weaker programs.
>>throw out the very old things.
>>one version behind = latest-1 is ok, but latest - 2 is IMO
>>too old.
>
>
>Thorsten, an elo calculation can be done for a new program only if its opponents
>have a known, well established elo (with many games, and a small error margin).
>
>This is why it is better to play against older program than against new programs
>on 450, because the new programs have a too big error margin.
>
>It's maybe the 3rd or 4th time I repeat this to you. The SSDF results are VALID.
>
>Of course you want to see the recent programs play against each other, but this
>is not the job of the SSDF. Their job is to compute ratings as accurate as
>possible.
>
>This is the job of passionated testers, like you, Shep, Enrique and others, to
>play the recent programs against each other.
>
>Let the SSDF do the less interesting work, and do yourself the interesting
>stuff. We are listening carefully to both the SSDF and testers.
>
>But don't say SSDF results make no sense.

It is refreshing to see a chess programmer call it like it is, I have noticed
you do not make excuses for you programs results, good or bad. Very
Refreshing!!! I am sure this is one of the reasons your program is tops on the
SSDF list, you look at the results objectively.


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>
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>    Christophe



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