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Subject: Re: A very hard to find winning move that Junior 6 don't find !!

Author: Côme

Date: 13:13:14 02/15/00

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On February 15, 2000 at 14:21:27, Howard Exner wrote:

>On February 15, 2000 at 13:35:14, Laurence Chen wrote:
>
>>On February 15, 2000 at 13:08:19, Côme wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hello,
>>>In this position:
>>>[D]4q1kr/p6p/1prQPppB/4n3/4P3/2P5/PP2B2P/R5K1 w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>After 10 min on my K6 II 350 Junior 6 don't find the winning move Qxe5!! .
>>>I guess that no program is able to find this move but Can you test others
>>>programs ?
>>>Best Regards
>>>Alexandre Côme
>>Can you put all the remaining moves?  I find it annoying when people put only
>>one move and states that is a winning one without further giving the rest of the
>>moves. Humans when doing a post mortem, they don't just say that this move would
>>save or win the game without further giving a variation or list of move to prove
>>that yes that move is the best one.  I cannot see how after 1. Qxe5 fxe5 would
>>White win?
>>Laurence
>
>Although  Alexandre's posts are always for me very interesting he seldom or
>never posts the move sequences until asked. It would also be nice if the source
>was included as to who played the game.
>
>The above is an example of black being in a bind and eventually running out of
>moves. Two possible quick lines are:
>
>A. 1. Qxe5 fxe5 2. Rf1 Qe7 3. Bd1 Rc7 4. Bb3 Rc8 5. Rf7 Re8 6. Bd5 b5 7. b4
>a6 8. Kg2 a5 9. bxa5 b4
>
>B. 1. Qxe5 fxe5 2. Rf1 Rc7 3. Bd1 Re7 4. Bb3 a5 5. a4 Qc8 6. Bd5 Qb8 7. b4
>axb4 8. cxb4 Qd8 9. a5 bxa5 10. bxa5 Qb8 11. a6 g5 12. Kg2
>
>The moves above will show the general theme but there is no doubt an accurate
>sequence of best moves that Alexandre will eventually post.
>
>The most curious thing about this particular post is the heading
>" ... that Junior 6 don't find!!" Why single out Junior6 with double exclamation
>marks? Anyone familiar with how computers play will know that they
>won't spot these long range themes.


Hello Howard,

Ok, you are right and from now I will post who as played the game, for this
diagram it's Gusev against Auerbakh.
I never post the move sequences because IMHO it's more interesting if the reader
search by himself ! no ?
I have wrote "... that Junior 6 don't find" because I think that more people
will open the post if he read that the number one of the SSDF don't find the
winning move. But of course I know that machine are not able to solve Qxe5!! .
Best Regards
Alexandre Côme




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