Author: Graham Laight
Date: 10:13:57 02/25/00
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On February 25, 2000 at 10:56:58, Pete Galati wrote: >On February 25, 2000 at 06:20:17, Graham Laight wrote: > >>On February 24, 2000 at 19:18:07, Pete Galati wrote: >> >>>On February 24, 2000 at 18:59:48, Graham Laight wrote: >[..... >>> >>>What kind of tablebases were you allowing Bringer to use? Bringer's a very cool >>>little program, but on it's own without any tablebases, I don't think it plays >>>such a great endgame, it is stronger than me however. >> >>I don't have a problem with Bringer's endgame - I think it is very good in this >>respect. >> >>In fact, Bringer is really very good in general. However, in the situation of >>being a queen down, it's strength seems to be a handicap - it prevents it from >>playing aggressive looking (but unsound) tactical moves that might induce panic >>in the opponent. >> >>If you want to see a bad endgame, try playing Travel Champion 2100! TC-2100 >>really relies on having the game already won before it gets to the endgame. This >>it can achieve against most of us - Franz Morsch seems to have programmed it to >>tactically "mix it" like crazy! However - if you can survive the middle game >>mayhem, the endgame is astonishingly easy to win. >> >>>Try Winboard, the Winboard Comet, and Crafty, and if you don't have them yet, >>>get yourself a collection of endgame tablebases at >>>ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt/ There's also several other Winboard engines >>>that are stronger than Bringer, try SOS, AnMon, Little Goliath, and The Crazy >>>Bishop is such a tactical masterpiece yet it doesn't get mentioned often enough, >>>I didn't use it for the longest time because I didn't understand how to set up >>>TCB, this was a mistake on my part, TCB is great. >> >>I have tended to avoid Winboard programs because of comments I have read on this >>forum. >> >>The impression I get is that the interface precludes access to many features >>(e.g. mainline analysis). > >Depending on your perspective on Winboard, it is or isn't filled with features, >many of us will say that it's the best because it has no fluff. The problem >with avoiding Winboard is that you prevent yourself from using the _best_ >download engines. Being a Queen up isn't enough to win a game for me, but if >you're at all a strong player, then you're probably looking for the strongest >download engine to go against, that's why Winboard's interface should interest >you, it'll allow you to play against strong programs like Crafty, Comet, TCB, >LGol, etc., and those programs are partly crippled if you try to interface them >through the great Chessbase interfaces, so the Winboard bare-bones interface >gives them the most strength. Hey - I've just downloaded Winboard and used it to play against The Crazy Bishop - it wasn't really difficult! The disappointment was TCB's ability to play a queen down - like Bringer, it allowed me to exchange down the pieces rather too easily. Let's face it - most chess computers are really brilliant wonders - but to be able to play the right way in all situations, they are going to need huge amounts of knowledge. -g >> >>With a Winboard program, is it possible to set the clocks for a program to G/5? >> >>Is it possible to set different times for each player? > >Not that I know of, you can set it so that the flag doesn't drop and call you on >time though. > >> >>-g >> >>>See the Winboard page for some of the download locations for these programs >>>http://www.research.digital.com/SRC/personal/Tim_Mann/chess.html >>> >>>Pete
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