Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 21:10:09 03/24/00
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On March 23, 2000 at 23:05:35, Tina Long wrote: >I agree with Roger, & add: this was all happening in the middle of the night for >Xie Jun, waiting around for an hour to start a five hour game, after playing >during the day, in a "proper" tournament, and going back there the following >day. > >Sooner or later you've got to say "F#$% This!" and go to bed. > >Tina Long But don't forget, no one held a gun to her head to make her sign the contract to play on those days. She chose to play in both events at the same time. It was a stupid decision. But apparently KC offered her enough money that she was willing to do it... She can hardly complain about her own bad judgement. As I said, she certainly has reasons to be upset. But this isn't one of them... > >On March 23, 2000 at 19:27:22, Roger wrote: > >>I think her faith in KK was damaged at the beginning, when they failed to honor >>their contract with her, and was damaged more and more as the games degenerated >>into the absurd. Eventually I think she doubted even that a computer was really >>playing. She may also have felt that since they'd had so much trouble with the >>connection (in her mind, it was a KK problem), they might just have a human play >>not to embarass themselves more. Eventually, trust changed to complete distrust, >>and she wanted out of the games. >> >>Raj >> >> >>On March 23, 2000 at 18:33:16, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On March 23, 2000 at 07:49:02, Tina Long wrote: >>> >>>>On March 23, 2000 at 07:37:50, Mogens Larsen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On March 23, 2000 at 03:26:05, Tom Kerrigan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>I just think she should have continued the match via telephone. I basically >>>>>>don't understand her reason not to. I mean, yes, using the telephone is sort of >>>>>>a breach of contract, it is something that was not agreed upon, it is changing a >>>>>>situation that is already messed up. >>>>>> >>>>>>However, how could using the phone possibly mess up the situation any more than >>>>>>it already was? And it's not like using a phone is rocket science. It would not >>>>>>have made anything more complicated. On the contrary, it would have simplified >>>>>>everything and made it work. But oh well. >>>>> >>>>>Who was the independent observer at the other end? If there wasn't any then I >>>>>can't see why she should agree to play over the phone. >>>>> >>>>>Best wishes... >>>>>Mogens >>>> >>>>That was a point that Xie Jun made. It seems she believed, possibly >>>>erroneously, that while on the internet she was connected directly to Deep >>>>Junior (isn't that how internet chess like Yahoo & ICC & FIC's work?). On the >>>>Telephone there was a human at the other end betwen her and DJ, and she could >>>>not be 100% sure that the moves and times she received were DJ's. >>>> >>>>Anyway, it's finished. >>>>What's next? >>>> >>>>Tina Long >>> >>> >>>I don't buy that argument. She may have felt 'abused' or whatever. She may >>>have felt (apparently justifiably I might add) that KK was totally incompetent >>>and that they could not repair the situation enough to make it viable. But to >>>say she couldn't be 100% sure that the computer was on the other end is total >>>nonsense. How could she _possibly_ be sure she was playing DJ? Answer: She >>>couldn't. The only way to be 100% sure is to play _in person_. So while she >>>had plenty to grumble about, this isn't legitimate.
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