Author: Enrique Irazoqui
Date: 12:07:08 05/18/00
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On May 18, 2000 at 14:21:09, Dann Corbit wrote: >On May 18, 2000 at 14:10:08, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: > >>On May 18, 2000 at 13:38:21, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On May 18, 2000 at 12:09:19, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >>> >>>>On May 18, 2000 at 11:08:59, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>> >>>>>Which is it? Is it both? Is it neither? >>>>> >>>>>I think it's both. >>>> >>>>I fail to see the bravery/cowardice issue. He is entitled to reject the >>>>participation of a computer program in his national championship, isn't he? >>> >>>*Why* do you think he is rejecting the option of playing? >> >>For the reasons he stated. Why should I interpret him? He opposed the >>participation of Fritz. Playing against it would be doing as told, against his >>own judgement. His privilege. > >And yet you are willing to interpret me, even diagnose me as someone who labels >people. > >>>>Refusing to play Fritz is only being coherent and has nothing to do with being >>>>a coward, "play like a man" (other posts on this issue), etc. >>> >>>Coherent in regard to what? >> >>See above. >> >>> If someone decides not to play are you saying that >>>the decision is neither brave nor cowardly? >> >>Nothing to do with being a coward, a hero, a "man", a "sissy". > >He is sticking to his principles. You see no bravery in that? This particular adjective didn't even cross my mind. He seems convinced, he acts coherently, both fine with me. Brave, coward, man, sissy? Come on... >>>>I find this sort of >>>>macho talk more revelaing about the poster than about van der Sterren and >>>>Bosboom. >>> >>>What does it say about me then, if it is revealing? >> >>That you think in these terms. > >Was it Kierkegaard or Dick Van Patten who said, "You label me, you negate me." Nice quotation, and I agree with it. But disagreeing with you or with your way of thinking in a specific issue is not labeling you, I think. >>>>It reminds me of the pacifists that refused to go to war and were >>>>accused of cowardice. >>> >>>Then you think it is bravery. That's what I was wondering. >> >>Nope. I don't think that being a pacifist has anything to do with bravery or >>lack of it. Same applies to van der Sterren. > >But taking a stand in relation to your pacifism does. Or do you simply not >believe that bravery or cowardice even exist? What I think is that this dicotomy has nothing to do with this issue, in the same way that I find absurd telling van der Sterren and Bosboom to be a "man", not a "sissy", as it has been posted before. Enrique
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