Author: Lanny DiBartolomeo
Date: 18:08:38 07/28/00
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On July 28, 2000 at 05:21:49, Derrick Wilson wrote: >On July 28, 2000 at 03:32:42, Lanny DiBartolomeo wrote: > >>On July 28, 2000 at 03:20:29, Derrick Wilson wrote: >> >>>On July 28, 2000 at 01:16:36, Lanny DiBartolomeo wrote: >>> >>>>On July 28, 2000 at 00:58:14, Jouni Uski wrote: >>>> >>>>>I made comparison between Carson's latest human list and SSDF to clear >>>>>possible level difference. But it's very difficult, when there are not many >>>>>exactly same software and hardware combinations. I removed multiprosessor >>>>>results and made assumption, that difference between 200MMX and 450 Mhz is 79p >>>>>(for comp-comp, sure not for human-comp). Here's some figures: >>>>> >>>>> Program average speed Against humans SSDF rating difference >>>>> >>>>> Rebel 431Mhz 2549/33 games 2594 (200MMX+79p) -45 >>>>> Fritz6 500Mhz 2457/15 2721 (450) -264 >>>>> Hiarcs6 272Mhz 2573/20 2518 (200MMX) +55 >>>>> Shredder 500Mhz 2495/8 2676 (450) -181 >>>>> CM5/6K 375Mhz 2521/14 2653 (200MMX+79p) -132 >>>>> >>>>>This means, that average difference (Against human - SSDF rating) is -85p. >>>>>(Weighted difference for all 90 games). >>>>> >>>>>I think this confirms general feeling, that SSDF must drop level by 100 points. >>>>>Counting these multiprosessor Junior/Fritz may still lower level. >>>>> >>>>>I this this kind of list is much more reasonable than current: >>>>> >>>>> 1 Fritz 6.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2621 >>>>> 2 Junior 6.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2589 >>>>> 3 Chess Tiger 12.0 DOS 128MB K6-2 450 2571 >>>>> 4 Fritz 5.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2554 >>>>> 5 Nimzo 7.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2553 >>>>> 6 Junior 5.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2526 >>>>> 6 Hiarcs 7.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2526 >>>>> 8 Crafty 17.07/CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2524 >>>>> 9 Nimzo 99 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2523 >>>>> 10 Hiarcs 7.32 64MB P200 MMX 2477 >>>>> 11 Fritz 5.32 64MB P200 MMX 2475 >>>>> 12 Chessmaster 6000 64MB P200 MMX 2474 >>>>> 13 Hiarcs 7.0 64MB P200 MMX 2460 >>>>> 13 Fritz 5.0 PB29% 67MB P200 MMX 2460 >>>>> 15 Nimzo 99 64MB P200 MMX 2449 >>>>> 16 Junior 5.0 64MB P200 MMX 2437 >>>>> 17 Nimzo 98 58MB P200 MMX 2425 >>>>> 18 Rebel 9.0 47MB P200 MMX 2420 >>>>> 19 Hiarcs 6.0 49MB P200 MMX 2418 >>>>> 20 Rebel 8.0 51MB P200 MMX 2410 >>>>> >>>>>Jouni >>>> >>>>Yes, but if you leave Fritz6 on top it is too inflated compared to human games, >>>> and dropping hiarcs rating would be a problem as well since it earned its >>>>rating 2573, it seems like the damage is done and you need a separate ratings >>>>list for comps vs human. I do not think you can just lower the ratings straight >>>>across the board. >>>> Lanny >>> >>> >>> What evidence do you have that Fritz6 rating would be inflated? I hope your >>>not going by the few games played at the israeli league? >> >>did you look at the text that was posted above? , then you should see what >>"evidence" I am going by. fritz6 500mhz 2457/15 against humans an against >>computers is 2721 , if this is correct or not ask Jouni those are the numbers >>given and I am giving an opinion off of the numbers given. > > > In other words you don't care whatever or not the figures are accurate you >don't mind making assumptions on Data that has not proven to be reliable?? The data for the SSDF is a source of data, did you prove this to be true?? (play out all those games??)or did you just believe it?? the other figures I believe to be a reliable enough source as as well, If you do not that is your choice, do you believe this data to be unfactual?? Also, when you look at the data given and cut 100 rating points straight off the top then this would not work out cleanly, AS I STATED. So do you think the data in the posts is untrue, prove it wrong then come and complain, BUT NOT TO ME as I am examening the data and making a reply off of it. If it is your intention to UPSET ME I would chose another person and stop TROLLING me!!
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