Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 16:48:57 11/29/97
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>No reason for this - sounding kinda " Oberlehrerhaft " , to use a german >word - wouldn't you be angry, if you rely on statements, go home kinda >happy, founding something new for your board + then realising, it is >-whatever - but not true ?! And ? I know many advertising statements of many many many products. And how many of those advertising statemets are true ?? I am a salesman, and I can tell you, there are many lies in this world. And ? It is the best way to sell a product. Some lies. And the customer is in the trap. And ? Don't tell me that you - an adult living for years in germany, a major capitalistic society, does not know this ! Lies lies lies. Anywhere ! And ? Is this new to you ? >Jesus : WHERE / WHICH is the better way ?? >If NOT questioning a hotline ?? A hotline is a hot line. Don't imagine to get help. You have to pay for NO HELP and the line is hot because SOOOOO many others need help too. > >>the boss >driver ROVER or Mercedes, the worker drives VW. If you want to get >SERVICE, you have to wait until the boss drives VW and the worker >Mercedes... :-)< > >Sorry - this is SO much leading away from my questions + problem - I >just don't want to get involved in theories of social /society or >whatsoever. If you think so. Believe it. But I don't think this is leading away. In fact: it is the reason why some questions where not solved to your satisfaction. > >>CSTal does not need much hash. What do you want with all the hash ? >This is not FRITZ5, this is an intelligent program.< > >Willing to believe in " intelligent program ". >On the other hand - do me the favour + leave it up to my decision, why >I implement a certain ammount of hash or not. Ok - I leave it to your decision. And please leave it to Chris' decision how many hash of the RAM you have is recognized. Anybody gets his own decisions through. >>Only a few fools in germany (Moritz Berger and you), who think they need >hash because they have owned Fritz5 (hehehe!:-) need more than 64 MB >ram. >I really believe nobody in chris company has more than 64 MB. WHY ?? >There is absolutely no reason to have more RAM. >If you want to get a CSTal that recognizes more RAM you have to wait >until the OXFORD-COMPANY buys themselves new RAM.< > >I ain't really sure : >If I remember right, you are one of the founders of this group. >With the clear aim, to keep things neutral, friendly ( topic - I've come >to hate this recently so often missused word ) and more of this. All I want to explain to you is: they sit the whole day in britain and play Command and conquer or years before they play DOOM or some battle games. Whenever I talk to chris he is mainly playing a war-game and I hear some stupid german expressions like: WIR SIND GETROFFEN ! or DIE MUNITION IS ALLE ! and stuff like this in the background. Do you really believe they work ? Germans are the only guys who work the whole day. All the others enjoy some arcade games and flirt with their female workers. Please have some fantasy and imagine how the world works. THERE is not pc with more than 64 MB in chris company. I don't really know why you take this as an insult. I am explaining to you the major problems. That whenever I report a bug and send a fax one programmer, playing DOOM , puts my fax and throws it with a grin in the trash while he kills some stupid germans in some war-fight game. THIS is the reality. Not what you think about it. THATS the reason the things happen. I thought you wanted to know WHY CSTal gets broken. And when I tell you about the difference between german and british thinking about WHAT is important you take it as an insult ! Brilliant ! You upgrade your machine, and Peter Schreiner upgrades his machine, and Moritz puts all his ram into his machine, and in britain they play some command & conquer on some 486 machines ! They are not interested if you upgrade your machine. Nobody on the whole world is so crazy in faster, higher, bigger like the germans. The fastest car is NOT better a normal human life. Only germans have this point of view. Computers are stupid ! >What you just wrote, my friend, is such a personal insult, naming me one >of two fools in Germany, who......that I won't take it. It was of course not meant without sarcasm or irony. The main thing is: If you take it out of the context it is an insult. But the context is the contrast between german-thinking about hardware importance and british-thinking of hardware importance. Maybe you have not registered, but they drive on the left side in england. Maybe you did not register, but cstal makes 4000 NPS, all the other programs make 20.000 to 200.000. Maybe you have not seen it, but CStal is having the chess-boards on the RIGHT side. All other programs have them on the left side. Do you get it. My context is about CONTRAST. And in this context means: The only 2 fools in germany means: this kind of view germans have about: it must run faster, it must drive faster, it must be bigger, more ram, more hash, bigger cache, more NPS is just a wrong point of view. It is - ah - forget it. >You have not one >millimeter more rights to do things than otheres in this group. >If the founders of this group let you get away with such bad behaviour, >it's time for me to leave - at once. I don't see a bad behaviour. I just told you that I think your higher-faster-wider-more-ram ideology makes you a fool. And I know many other german fools. Myself included. Although I am harmless in relation to some other extremes. But a harmless fool is not much different. My point is: in other countries they have more natural proportions. The way the german speaks about his Computer = Car and cares about it, remembers me on how the french guy handles and takes care about his car ! This contrast is the explanation WHY other countries do not soooo much make a fetish out of their Car / Computer. I wish we would learn out of this. A computer means nothing to me. Also my car. I don't need the fastest. Nor the biggest. A good book or some music makes me happier than my PC. And I know a brit thinks the same. And a french guy maybe sees it even more extreme. And this is the contrast I want to explain to you. No insult. > >>You have to reconsider that they are not the mass-market >fast-stupid-search-company. They all work in chris' slow-knowledge >paradigm. Therefore they are all brainwashed to think into Chris' major >believes.< > >This is an answer like the throw out of a fog canon. Doesn't answer my >question in no way. Maybe you don't understand my answer. Where is the fog. I am very honest, am I ? >I didn't suggest Oxford to be mass-fast-stupid or near to Pulitzer >prize, I simply asked, HOW to set up the ANNOUNCED more hash, as stated >in the montioned text of Mr. Whittington . not more ! I have explained to you that the program recognizes it automatically and that your ram is out of Limit. The automatic would never imagine that something "impossible" happens, that somebody has more ram than 64 MB ! This is not known in britain. > >>Ich wuerde dir also raten die Firma Oxford-Softorks zu verklagen. Oder >TASC.< > >C'mon, Thorsten Czub - will ya please : >WHO produces this product, WHO did the announcements in the web, WHO gave >advice to write the highlights of the program onto the box......TASC ?? >Ever thought of the possibility, to bring a patch, along with a 2 k text >"...sorry, we've missed something....her's the fix..." I am not working for this company. Tell them. I translated the texts. :-) You don't kow WHO produced the product ? It is written in the box. Sorry we missed something ??? But thats exactly the point I try to explain into your german brain: NOBODY THEIR MISSES ANYTHING ! THEY ARE SITTING AND CHATTING and drink their tea and a girl laughs the whole time and some programmers try to flirt better than the others and nobody in the company cares about the MISSED SOMETHING you care ! Why should they ? They cannot play chess, they don't know what TASC is. They are not able to connect a TASC-board to a pc. They don't know how to move a legal move on a chessboard.- How should they ever take care about YOUR private problems in germany ? And thats exactly the reason WHY your problems occur. The way they do it is normal. And I have joined it when I was in britain. They really know how to live. Germans are fools. Take this again as an insult. But it is not meant like this. I mean: we live the wrong way. You buy a product and you are really so serious to believe that what is written on the box is fullfilled by the program ???? Have you ever worked with programmers on a program, and the programmers don't know anything about the topic ? > >>Which new idea ? I don't understand the context, sorry.< > >I think, you don't want to. >Isn't it so, that the TAL function of this program is announced to be >revolutionary + very well worth to be tested....and bought ? >This, was the contex. Aha. > >>I don't think that you will get ANY quick solution ! :-)< > >This last sentence clears the situation for me - dissappointingly. I feel sorry for you. I have had this problems too. I bought Genius3,4 and Fritz5. I was disapointed too. And still there are bug in the programs. AND NO PATCH file exists. And ? I have not phoned their HOT-LINE ! Because I know: this will not change anything. When I ask Ossi Weiner: Hey - I bought Genius 3,4 and you said the versions getting stronger with each version, but this was wrong, what can he do ??? Nothing. > >As you told me, you work in retailing buisness, just like me. >One of the major rules is : >never debate, argue or quarrel with a customer. Quatsch ! I will ALWAYS argue with customers. If a customer is stupid, I will not tell him that his request was intelligent. I don't want stupid customers. I could not stand their requests. Some people believe they would get a toaster for 39,- DM and the toaster would work, or even work a long time. The people are crazy. They go into ALDI and buy a computer and believe it would work, they buy a HIFI_RACK for 150,- DM and think this is stereo and would have 1000 WATT ! They really believe what is written on the box: 1000 Watt (pmpo). And you want that I tell them: You are right. It is a very good hifi-rack. Buy it ! You want me to tell them lies or to be nice to them when they react like fools? What do you expect for 150,- ??? And what do you expect for 59,- DM ? >Never give him the feeling, that you take him or his wishes not serious. I am not taking a customers feelings serious. They steal, they lie, they put their dirty handkerchiefs into my shelf, they open any box and don't buy it, they want to try out any stuff they buy in the shop, no matter if it is a coffe-machine, a hair-curler (watt heisst haarfoen?), they even want to know how loud the STAUBSAUGER is, believe me: they are absolutely crazy. If I would take them serious, I could not stand ONE single day in directing them through the shop. Some are even to stupid to find the exit. >You'll never win - and if you win - you've allready lost - the customer. And ? One customer away I have problems with give space for another customer I don't have problems with ! Last week I had a customer who insisted that the CD with Freddy was not ok. She said that their are scratches on the cd. There were NO scratches on the cd. And freddy sounded as stupid as ever. And she had no BON/billet/invoice. And all she wants was to get her money back. They are crazy. They buy something, bring it back after a week and believe I would exchange it only because they insists that Freddy sounds wrong. I don't care how freddy sounds. The CD costed 6,96 DM and my wasted 30 minutes to explain her that I will not exchange her the cd costed my boss 8,47 DM ! I left her as a potential new customer. But I am sure, another guy will buy even another freddy-cd and maybe even more without trying to exchange it. YOu claim that the number of customers would be limited. This is wrong. The number of "fools" is infinite and we train them each day in school. We teach them what they have to buy when they are older. We brainwash them until they think it is important to have this and that. The number of customers is infinite and they are a part of the system. Without products the customers would die. Without senseless products the system could not work. It is the sense of a product to be limited. > >I think - with your impulsive, agresssive answer you did something for >your friend, companion, boss - whatever - what we call in German : > >Einen Bärendienst I not a worker of chris company. He cannot fire me. And we have different opinions. We would also have different opinion if we would or would not be friends. And it is not my job to write nice statements to help chris selling his products. If you are a customer and you have problems because you have too much hash, maybe the problem is on your side. As I said: the program was never designed to use hash in the wasted way you know it from Fritz5 or other stupid programs. They have signed a contract to Intel to push the hardware-market. And this was always this way, and will ever be. Since the old days of ATARI when we all had the question: why do the PC guys need this massive hardware resources when the ATARI is doing the job much better WITHOUT a HD, without massive ram, only from a DD-disc ! I learnt that there is a reason why the OS grow and grow and need more HD-space and more and more ram : they want to force you to spent more money on your hobby. If you sign this ideology. Your problem. Not mine. Maybe you should upgrade your machine. I have heard Fritz6 needs at least 100.000.000.000 MByte Ram to play 2000 ELO on a Pentium3 700 Mhz ! But it is said Kasparov was impressed about the search-depths and the NPS it reaches ... :-) > >Regards > >ELVIS
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