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Subject: Re: How many possible moves in one position?

Author: Don Dailey

Date: 19:20:22 12/07/97

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>>Could you tell me what is the maximum number of legal moves in a
>>chess game position?
>>A) In theory?
>>B) In practice?


>3r2k1/1p3ppp/p4P2/P3r3/1P3nPP/5RQ1/2q5/R6K b - -    ; 65 legal moves.

>>Q6Q/4Q3/1Q6/5Q2/2Q5/R5Q1/3Q2NN/1R3KBk w - -    ; 195 moves.


Here is an 82 move one found in the search from a normal position:

 1r1Q3r/5k1p/B3b1N1/2p1QN2/4p3/8/1PP3KP/R3R3 w - -  ; 82 legal moves

But I noticed there were 2 queens on the board.  White had 2 queens,
2 mobile rooks a mobile bishop and even the king had 7 sqaures it
could move to.  Both knights were pretty mobile and there were 3 pawns
each on the board.  The position looked natural, not like a
construction.
Since a lot of pieces were close to maximum mobility it would be hard
for me to believe a 100 move position even exists with only 1 queen on
the board.

If each piece had maximum mobility and no multiple pieces were allowed
unless they existed from the opening position:

27  queen
 8  knight
 8  knight
13  bishop
13  bishop
14  rook
14  rook
 8  king
---------
105 moves.

The pawns could add moves but it's hard to believe they
would not interfere with the range of other pieces.  Also it's hard
to believe the pieces themselves would not interfere with each other.

I believe it will be truly difficult if not impossible to find a
position
with 100 legal moves possible assuming only up to 1 queen and 2 of
everything
else.  With multiple queens we see it's quite possible to exceed 200
moves.

-- Don












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