Author: Albert Silver
Date: 19:47:28 09/05/00
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On September 05, 2000 at 17:59:22, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>On September 05, 2000 at 17:15:56, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>I do not see why do you think that refusing to test programs only for getting
>>the program is something immoral(If I understand you correctly).
>
>Well, if you want to offer your services for a price then it's your decision. In
>my case I would see it as immoral because chess software is a hobby, not a
>carrer move.
I don't understand why chess software is on hallowed ground here, nor do I see
why you are condemning chess software developers to amateurism. I see nothing
'immoral' about receiving payment in order to help develop a program, but the
real question lies, in my opinion, in what a beta-tester consists. Uri is
offering his services as a developer, not as a beta-tester, as far as I see, as
the particular qualifications he is presenting as justifying payment are those
of a developer and not a beta-tester. On the other hand I can easily imagine a
professional (paid) beta-tester of programs in general, and I can easily believe
such a profession developing if it doesn't already exist.
Albert Silver
>Furthermore, I wouldn't withold information that might help with
>the intent of making money later on. If you did that while betatesting for
>Junior, then your acts were immoral IMHO.
>
>>I mean that:
>>1)I thought about some ideas.
>>2)I discovered that the ideas are not used by chess programs.
>>3)I told nobody about the ideas.
>>
>>I do not see something immoral in what I did.
>
>That depends on how you found out that other programs don't use those ideas. If
>you exploited your testing job for that, then you have a problem.
>
>>Nobody paid me for being a beta tester but Ed paid me for operating Rebel
>>Century in the Israeli league and I earned more money relative to the price of
>>chess programs from this job.
>
>Operating Rebel in a tournament is slightly different as you're now an employee.
>I'm talking about offering my services voluntarily, not being hired for a job. I
>wouldn't mind operating a program for free either. It's not exactly brain
>surgery.
>
>Mogens.
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