Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 21:28:38 09/27/00
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On September 27, 2000 at 15:26:37, Bruce Moreland wrote: >On September 27, 2000 at 12:21:30, Peter Kappler wrote: > >>On September 27, 2000 at 09:38:02, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>>I use the term "dead drawn" for positions where there is no hope to win. For >>>an example, set up any krb vs kr with Crafty and play it out. You'll then >>>appreciate the dead drawn description. >>> >>>:) > >>Nice try, but "dead drawn" is supposed to be a general description of a >>position. Factoring in the strength of the players just adds an unnecessary >>assymetry. For example, if I have the rook, and Crafty has the rook+bishop, >>suddenly it's not a dead draw. > >He is right, Bob. If you had a 32-man table, black probably holds regardless of >what white does, so the initial position would be "dead" drawn. > >A dead draw is a KRP vs KR with a pawn blockaded by the king. There may be dead >draws in KRB vs KR, but the typical position isn't dead, it's worth playing out. > >bruce I have seen hundreds of drawn KRP vs KR positions won by Crafty's "swindle mode". I don't consider a blunder by the opponent as changing the original "dead drawn" description... because I know that against a computer with tablebases (and most are now using them) these draws will end as draws. Ditto for playing against GMs.
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