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Subject: Re: In Terms Of GMs, Have PCs Hit A Brick Wall?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:15:09 10/10/00

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On October 10, 2000 at 11:56:45, Joshua Lee wrote:

>None of you i am surprised, have even considered elo ratings being influctuated
>since 1972. Kramnik better than Alekhine I think not.


I guess that kramnik is better but there is no way to do a match between them so
it is impossible to check it.

> Alekhine was supposedly
>2690 if ratings are 100 or more points too high i don't think Deep Juniors
>performance rating would be too much over 2500.

Deep Junior's performance was 2700 at durtmond.

 I am NOT saying that Deep Junior
>isn't any good or good enough to beat a GM or two i am just pointing
>this out for you to think about. Also think about this when it comes to tactics
>try finding a tactic more difficult and longer than Botvinnik-Capablanca AVRO
>1938 most programs yes even Little Goliath searching a 2MNPS couldn't find it in
>15 or 20 minutes. See it all the way through to mate then we will talk about how
>Humans can win with tactics. This i can't answer it is more interesting than the
>original topic though....namely how can a human beat a computer with tactics
>when the computer can see 20 full ply or more?

It is not surprising because it is enough to see one relevant line to outsearch
computers in tactics.

computers are better in short tactics when humans can be better at long tactics.

>
>with Position this has already been done just look at the DJ Kramnik game.

There were also cases when Deep Junior outsearch the opponent(see the games that
Deep Junior won in the same tournament)

Uri



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