Author: leonid
Date: 18:34:51 12/02/00
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On December 02, 2000 at 14:40:15, Lin Harper wrote: >On December 02, 2000 at 11:39:14, leonid wrote: > >>On December 01, 2000 at 20:36:27, walter irvin wrote: >> >>>i have no doubt that you have a monster of a system , but i still believe that a >>>human will always find a way . not all people for sure .but the best player will >>>always be a human because people are so devious , sneaky , slippery,and cheat >>>,actually hate to lose .plus some people are just super smart , like a morphy .i >>>really believe that if morphy played deep blue a 6 game match morphy would have >>>won .there will always come a person who will be able to beat the machine .true >>>maybe if the person did not know who they were playing the machine would win . >>>but the human does know ,plays his style based on that . >> >>I think that human is inevitable looser in the chess game at long run. I doubt >>very much that chess game, as game for human, will stay alive more that one > > > >>century. As calligraphy became pointless with invention of typewriter, human >>game will fade out as soon as computers brain will become somewhat mature. >>Computers now just started their life. Never mind! Even now they proved to be >>able to beat almost every human while they are in deep infancy. >> >>8 men tables is good but not that important for computers final win. When >>computer will be strong enough, it will win each chess game well before game >>will reach its final stage. >> >>Leonid. > Yes, but won't this make humans stronger too? I mean, then computers will > rewrite openings books, and find flaws in our endgames too. I accept we will > only be able to compete with them for a limited time, but they will ultimately > make the game more, not less, exciting for us. They don't allow forklift > trucks in weightlifting competitions. For how long it is exciting to play when you are looser? For so far as I could observe myself and people around me, not for that long. Only reason for somebody to be happy while loosing with computer is inner thought of comming back to human and then win against weak opponent. But even about this I am not that sure. I think that human player will existe like painting still with us after invention of photography. Only quality of classic painting is gone for ever. I think we are now at the end of classical period of human chess. When computer will be the best chess player, quality of human chess game will shrink to the position of modern abstract painting. Leonid.
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