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Subject: Re: Anand FIDE World Champion: Anand-Shirov 3,5-0,5

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 14:15:47 12/24/00

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On December 24, 2000 at 13:11:49, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On December 24, 2000 at 09:09:27, Jeroen Noomen wrote:
>
>>My congratulations to Vishy Anand, for winning the
>>FIDE World Championship 2000!
>>
>>3,5-0,5 in the final against Shirov, that leaves no
>>discussion whatsoever. Anand was the best, remained
>>unbeaten and scored a clear victory in the final.
>>Well done!
>>
>>Jeroen
>
>
>I am still absolutely amazed that a World Championship can be decided this way.
>
>A score of 3.5-0.5 is not statistically significant, not even with a low
>confidence.
>


What a crap.

First of all all insignificant statistical elements that cause confusion
were not allowed to join in this worldchamp in the first place.

Secondly 3.5-0.5 in a final is very impressive.

third did you forget how TOUGH anand had it to get into finals and how
easily Shirov came there when looking who they played?

Note that Shirov showed to be worlds best blitz player by
knocking out people in blitz in a very convincing way!

>It is now clear, at least amongst the experienced computers chess operators,
>that such a result means NOTHING.

You clearly don't see difference between what a computer is where any
detail can distract scores or give weird results and a
world championship mankind where no detail is getting done by random
generator...

>I think that the computer chess community is on some topics much more advanced
>than the human chess community. For example the human chess community has
>adopted the ELO rating system, but still ignores most of the basic rules of this
>system (margin of error, level of confidence). The computer chess community is
>aware of these rules, and you can find these parameters published in the SSDF
>rating list for example.

A knockout championship has nothing to do with rating, but that's why
we don't put a crown onto the person with highest rating, but let them
play matches!

>    Christophe

The only criticizable thing that happened IMHO is that the
final was held in Teheran, a place where i would never go.

Vincent



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