Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 23:20:46 12/24/00
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On December 24, 2000 at 17:15:47, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>On December 24, 2000 at 13:11:49, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On December 24, 2000 at 09:09:27, Jeroen Noomen wrote:
>>
>>>My congratulations to Vishy Anand, for winning the
>>>FIDE World Championship 2000!
>>>
>>>3,5-0,5 in the final against Shirov, that leaves no
>>>discussion whatsoever. Anand was the best, remained
>>>unbeaten and scored a clear victory in the final.
>>>Well done!
>>>
>>>Jeroen
>>
>>
>>I am still absolutely amazed that a World Championship can be decided this way.
>>
>>A score of 3.5-0.5 is not statistically significant, not even with a low
>>confidence.
>>
>
>
>What a crap.
Thanks. Critisism from you tells me there must be some truth in what I say.
>First of all all insignificant statistical elements that cause confusion
>were not allowed to join in this worldchamp in the first place.
>
>Secondly 3.5-0.5 in a final is very impressive.
>
>third did you forget how TOUGH anand had it to get into finals and how
>easily Shirov came there when looking who they played?
>
>Note that Shirov showed to be worlds best blitz player by
>knocking out people in blitz in a very convincing way!
>
>>It is now clear, at least amongst the experienced computers chess operators,
>>that such a result means NOTHING.
>
>You clearly don't see difference between what a computer is where any
>detail can distract scores or give weird results and a
>world championship mankind where no detail is getting done by random
>generator...
The kind of chess that computers play is not produced by a random generator.
BTW statistics about chess matches are independant of playing style or WHO or
WHAT is playing the match.
Why would human player escape from basic statistics? Because they have soul and
computers don't???
>>I think that the computer chess community is on some topics much more advanced
>>than the human chess community. For example the human chess community has
>>adopted the ELO rating system, but still ignores most of the basic rules of this
>>system (margin of error, level of confidence). The computer chess community is
>>aware of these rules, and you can find these parameters published in the SSDF
>>rating list for example.
>
>A knockout championship has nothing to do with rating, but that's why
>we don't put a crown onto the person with highest rating, but let them
>play matches!
>
>> Christophe
>
>The only criticizable thing that happened IMHO is that the
>final was held in Teheran, a place where i would never go.
And apparently statistics do not apply in Teheran. That's the only place on
earth where statistics cannot be applied, I assume.
Christophe
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