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Subject: Re: Aufsess-tournament 98: Fritz5 comment

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 16:43:30 03/27/98

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> OK, lets get one thing straight, my life , or your opinion of it  isn't
>the issue here. Since you choose to try and make that the point, it's
>shows  how common you actually are. The facts I have are facts that I
>have seen and wittnessed only, not those that may come as rumors or
>fantasy, I am here to see solid proof in this issue, proof which you
>want to disclaim obviously.

You are right. And that is IMO the problem. You are only right.
And your facts are also right. And anything is right. And the problem is
that you really believe ANYTHING is 100 % proofed and SOLID and
wittnessed.

I don't want to further comment on this.
My comments would hurt you.

>  My first purchase of these 2 programs was HIARCS6, with which I was
>impressed until I started playing manual games against a friend who was
>using Fritz 5. At this time, I began to earnestly believe that Fritz is
>the strongest total package available at this time. The data continued
>to mount in favor of Fritz, but I didn't colloect this data for others,
>only to decide for myself which is better. A person cannot make an
>intelligent decision without data , or as you would rather not hear,
>PROOF !!

I would say a person that is unable to decide without data is not
intelligent.
Or : a person not able to make an INTELLIGENT decision without data is
NOT INTELLIGENT.

I have read a good book a few years ago, it was called
DESCARTES' ERROR. EMOTION , REASON AND THE HUMAN BRAIN by
Antonio R. Damasio (published 1994 G.P.Putnam's Son in New York).

Damasio lives in Iowa City and has collected many cases of
brain-damaging.
He has found out that the human brain is NOT able to decide any RATIONAL
decision access to the emotions/feelings.
The split many people claim, that it would be possible to decide using
ONLY
facts or data as source of the decision is WRONG.
If you try to decide without feelings, you make irrational decisions.

Maybe reading this book you could get a 10 % chance of understanding
what I am talking about.

>   As Fritz was the rogram in question, I only attempted to recreate the
>games from those that Fritz was playing, not those of HIARCS 6, even if
>they were games betweeb the two,. No one has ever disputed the games
>played by HIARCS 6 until you posted this. So now you are accusing HIARCS
>6 of throwing games to Fritz 5 ? Thats a huge statement to make, but I'm
>sure you have the PROOF, don't you.

Hiarcs6 engine for Fritz is weaker than Hiarcs6 DOS in /X mode and with
full hash.
I don't know why you want to denie this. I don't care. I have both,
fritz5-hircs6 engine and Hiarcs6-DOS and have never had any doubts that
hiarcs6 plays stronger...

>   Before you claimed to live without the need of prrof, but now you
>have done research, and have data to prove what you claim. Interesting
>conlfict of claims, and of that, we have the prrof. So, now that you are
>conducting these imperical examinations, and admitting that proof is
>required, why bother to argue.

You misquoting and trying to confuse by misordering what I say.
You can maybe gamble arround like this and feel good.
Your job.
I do not want to follow you in those steps.

I don't like scholastic word games. LANGUAGE is a vehicle to understand
the sender, it should not be a weapon or a method to play games with the
audience.
Scholastic is the art of misusing language to suggest that somebody is
wrong just by changing the order of words or betraying with chiasm (e.g.
If guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns) and other language
tricks (heads I win, tails you lose).

Language is unable to describe reality. It has the same problem the
human brain has: the aristotelic logic is not capable to understand
superpositions or
other non-casual-processes or other non mechanical concepts.

We try the impossible. To discuss about reality with using a language
that canot 1:1 translate reality.
The software is the problem. It can only emulate reality but never
transmit it 100%.

Maybe it is better we close this. Our point of views are 100 %
diametral.
It is not my intention to fight with you or to make you angry.
Therefore I will try not to further increase the problems that come out
of the diametral positions we have about the outer/inner world.



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