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Subject: Re: Deeper Blue v Kramnik in October?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:47:14 04/05/01

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On April 05, 2001 at 10:52:15, Graham Laight wrote:

>On April 05, 2001 at 10:30:34, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>>On April 05, 2001 at 10:21:04, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On April 05, 2001 at 09:56:57, Graham Laight wrote:
>>>
>>>>I apologise if this has already been discussed and I missed it, but I spoke to
>>>>GM Daniel King (author of "Kasparov V Deeper Blue") on Wednesday, and he told me
>>>>that there was a real possibility that DB might be resurrected to play Kramnik.
>>>>Do any of you guys know anything about this, please?
>>>
>>>I do not know but I think that there should be a competition for the computer
>>>that is going to play against kramnik.
>>>
>>>People are not sure if Deeper blue is stronger than other programs at 2 hours/40
>>>moves.
>>>
>>>I suggest to invite the following participants:
>>>1)Deep Fritz
>>>2)Deep Junior
>>>3)Tiger
>>>4)Rebel
>>>5)Dark thought
>>>6)Crafty
>>>7)Deep Shredder
>>>8)Ferret
>>>9)Gandalf
>>>10)Deeper blue
>>>
>>>The winner of the tournament should play against one of the strongest player
>>>that is not kramnik(Shirov or Anand or Kasparov are candidates) and only after
>>>it wins the match if it wins it should play kramnik.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>This is a good idea.  This way, no doubt about the strongest program, and no
>>doubt about results from playing human runner up and then Krammik if the
>>computer is victorious.
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>Chris Carson
>
>Unfortunately, I disagree.
>
>1. The more requirements you add in to this prospective match, the less likely
>that it will ever happen.
>
>2. The best computer at beating other computers is not necessarily the best
>computer at beating humans. Look how well Crafty is doing against humans right
>now with its anti-stonewall attack code. But for the WMCCC 2000, this code was
>removed.

The ICC games are usually faster than 120/40 and I suspect that at tournament
time control things may be different.

I do not like a code that is counter productive against computers because I
believe that in this case it may be also counter productive against humans after
they learn comp-comp games.

I prefer to see the best program in comp-comp games plays against humans.

Uri



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