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Subject: Re: Is a third native concept important, questions for a new poll ?

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 10:07:40 05/16/01

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On May 16, 2001 at 12:19:40, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>On May 16, 2001 at 06:53:29, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>
>>I think in 1 year we have 30-50 UCI engines
>>because UCI is very interesting and free.
>
>How is UCI 'free'? Is there any free interface that supports it?

The protocol is free.
So GUI programmer can use the protocol and programmers the engine protocol.

>>Have all programmers interest to make a Engine for Chess-Base ?
>
>If I can support ChessBase without much hassle I will, because
>people ask for it. Still it is not native in any way, just a hack
>to work with the brokenness of the Chessbase Winboard adapter.

>You cannot make a native engine for Chessbase, as they do not
>publish how to do it.

This is the problem. I hope I understand your message correct.
More interesting is that the protocol from Chess-Base is also free, like UCI and
for sure WinBoard :-)

>Personally I do not care for ChessBase support, but some users do,
>and I try to help them.

>>Have programmers interest to make a Engine for the free WinBoard concept ?

>Sure. I do all I can to make my engine as useful as possible under
>Winboard (which includes sending Tim dozens of bugreports :)

This is fantastic !

>>Have programmers interest to see a little bit commercial contra ?
>
>Competition is good, a monopoly is not.

>Having one standard is good, having five is not.

RIGHT !!!

>There's a difference there.
>
>>Have programmers interest to make a engine for a good GUI for users ?
>
>Yes. This is why I support WinBoard. It is the best GUI out there IMHO.

Also right :-))

>>Have programmers interest to make in the next years only free versions, no
>>market or a market from one firm ?
>
>Yes. Sjeng will stay free, or at least a free version will always be available.

Also good !

>>We must make 5 new engine concepts for make a little bit commercial contra ?
>>We must work all hand in hand ...
>
>Please god no. One protocol is enough. It's already bad enough that there
>is this ChessBase thing (calling it Winboard compatible would be insulting
>Tim) and this UCI thing.

So I hope that we get not other protocols. Better GUI programmers make here
programs more and better compatible to WinBoard and or use UCI !

>>And I mean we must work hand in hand with "Chess-Base ... the best ideas, the
>>best products, the best software"
>
>HA HA HA

This is that what other persons will read here :-))

But the ideas and the GUIs from Chess-Base are very good, also Chessmaster and
other commercial products.

>--
>GCP

Best
and good luck with your program !

Frank



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